It would hurt the sales of JAWS. ----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Russ Kiehne Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
Why doesn't the vfo group put out a working copy of window eyes in the public domain? This is what Freedom Scientific did with jaws for dos. -----Original Message----- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 11:33 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes Thanks, Carol. That's what I assume, and so why I'm counselling caution about distributing Window-Eyes even though VFO claims that it will no longer be developed. Besides, being their product, they can do whatever they want with Window-Eyes in the future, even resurrect it, should they choose to do so. Best, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: September 9, 2017 2:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: Carol and Roger <carogsm...@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes Hi Rod, Yes, you are correct. Even if the company is gone, the copywright is still there. It is the same as a person writing a book. The book can be copywrighted for as long as someone wishes to keep it going. So, AI may have forwarded the copywright which would now fall on VFO to continue to maintain that, even though the product is no longer being distributed. Carol On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Russ and all, > > As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install > Window-Eyes. > Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread > seems to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I > think you'll run into copyright infringement if you do this. > > Hth, > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk > Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes > > It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the > serial number that matters. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol and Roger via Talk > Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Carol and Roger > Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes > > Only sort of. The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so > the name and any other information that is asked for during installation > would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy > and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be > a demo copy. > > > On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote: >> If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would >> still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this >> correct? >> >> On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk] >> >> wrote: >>> Hi Loy, >>> >>> Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was referring to why you thought it would be >>> okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was >>> no longer being developed. >>> I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, >>> infringement of copyright to let someone else use it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Rod >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk >>> Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >>> Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes >>> >>> If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some >>> countries you had to have a dongle. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rod Hutton via Talk >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Cc: Rod Hutton >>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM >>> Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes >>> >>> >>> Hi Loy, >>> >>> If you truly know this, then, that's fine. >>> I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be. >>> If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rod >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk >>> Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >>> Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes >>> >>> There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get >>> a >>> downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone >>> else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or >>> developed then using some one else's copy would not matter. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA >>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM >>> Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes >>> >>> >>> And then after installation of WE how about the online activation? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On >>> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk >>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Cc: aad leeflang >>> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes >>> >>> ok thanks >>> i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer >>> than 9.0. >>> i downloadee most versions. >>> but how do i get a more acurate version though? >>> or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc. >>> i guess not. >>> aad >>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +0000 >>> Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi Aad, >>> > >>> > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at >>> least version 9.2. >>> > >>> > Hth, >>> > >>> > Rod >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Talk >>> > >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>> On >>> > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk >>> > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM >>> > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >>> > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info> >>> > Subject: question about re installing wineyes >>> > >>> > hello all >>> > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10. >>> > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it >>> does >>> > not work under windows 10. >>> > i had the cd version 9.0. >>> > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes >>> so >>> that >>> > i re install it? >>> > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work 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