I am late on this thread, but thanks, Tom. This is valuable.

-----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: Program to reset (if necessary( the Windows screen reader flag.

Hey Rod,
Well, the more I fiddle with NVDA and JAWS the more I think I'll be
praying for the second coming. Either will solve the problem.
Tom


On 11/13/2017 9:44 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom

The resurrection of Window-Eyes:
hmm, sounds very biblical, or the title of a good book. (smile)
Thanks for the software to reset the flag:
very ingenious, and thoughtful to produce it for us.

Take care,

Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: November 13, 2017 8:33 AM
To: john schwery via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Program to reset (if necessary( the Windows screen reader flag.

Thanks, John. Glad to help.
Now if I could only write the resurrection of Window-Eyes. (smile)
Tom


On 11/13/2017 6:08 AM, john schwery via Talk wrote:
Tom, thanks.  Good work.

At 08:46 PM 11/12/2017, you wrote:
* About the Screen Reader Check program * This program is copyright
2017 Tom Kingston ­ all rights reserved. Seee the included License.txt
file for details. Email: tom.kings...@charter.net Windows has an
internal setting that tells it if a screen reader is running. Our
screen readers turn this on when we load them and off when we close
them. Windows uses it to make some changes that help our screen
readers work better. It is also available for other programs to check
when they launch and make themselves more accessible as well. The
problem comes into play when something goes wrong with our screen
reader, such as it stops talking but it’s not actually hung or
crashed, which is the case for me when Internet Explorer throws an
error. In my case I’m running Window-Eyes. So I load NVDA to see
what’s going on. Sometimes this alone reopens the flow of speech
from Window-Eyes. If not closing the error message with NVDA always
brings Window-Eyes back to life. My understanding is that the same
thing happens with JAWS. Next I unload NVDA and continue on my merry
way. But closing NVDA turns off the screen reader setting in Windows
even though I’m still running a screen reader. This is not the fault
of NVDA or exclusive to it. Any screen reader will do the same. This
is where this program comes into play. In order to turn the screen
reader setting back on we would have to unload our screen reader and
reload it. And in order to do that and insure the best result we would
have to close all open programs, close our screen reader, reload it,
and then reopen those programs and do whatever is necessary, e.g. load
files, to get back to work. This is because our screen readers need to
see some programs load in order to configure themselves to work
correctly with those programs. The Screen Reader Check program allows
you to reset the screen reader setting without having to close and
reopen your programs and screen reader. You can run this program and
it will first check to see if the screen reader setting is on or off.
If it’s on the program will simply notify you of this and close when
you press the Ok button. If not it will attempt to turn the screen
reader setting back on and then broadcast a system message to tell all
open windows that a screen reader is running. It will then notify you
that this was done and close when you press the Ok button. The
ScreenReaderCheck.zip file will extract a ScreenReaderCheck folder.
That folder includes License.txt, ReadMe.txt (this file), and SRC.exe.
Simply unzip it into a folder of your choice. You may then wish to
place SRC.exe in a more convenient place for quicker access. I gave
the program a short name to make it easy to run from the run dialog.
Just press Windows+R and enter drive:\path\src.exe. for example, if
you place it in the root of your C-drive you would just enter
C:\SRC.exe. You may also wish to open the context menu (Application
key or Shift+F10) on SRC.exe in the folder you extracted it to and use
“Send to” to send a shortcut to your desktop. Within the
properties of that shortcut file, accessed through the context menu or
Alt-Enter, you can assign a shortcut hot key to it. If you have any
comments or inquiries please email me at tom.kings...@charter.net
Below is a link to the ScreenReaderCheck.zip file. After downloading
the file select it, open the context menu, P Properties, tab to the
Unblock check box and check it. This will prevent you from having to
go through the Windows security dialog in order to run SRC.exe.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ugpweuw5igmmg8q/ScreenReaderCheck.zip?dl=1
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