For all members of the list,

As a friendly reminder:


We all eventually touch that Delete-key, when it was inconvenient. That 
important message should not have been deleted; and what do you do now?


First of all, all the mail clients I have been in touch with, do have a 
Trash folder. Whenever you hit the Delete-key, messages typically are 
moved there. They are not altered, or modified in any way. As a matter 
of fact, do you go to the trash folder of your mail program, you can 
quickly "re-insert" the message, back inot the folder it originally 
belonged to. So, before asking the group members to send out yet another 
message, generating extra clutter on the list, and taking up time from 
others, may you please check your trash folder first.


One thing is, when you have deleted a message that is several days, 
weeks or even months old. It then could be a mess to try refinding it in 
the trash folder. But if you know it is only a few days ago the original 
message was received, it should be not too hard to bring it back on-stage.


Oh for sure, there is a way to permanently delete a message. It might 
often be a combo with the delete-key, like Shift-Del, or Ctrl-Del - 
depending on your mail client. Did you happen to use that combo when 
deleting the message? Please, don't despair all yet. At the bottom of 
any message from the list, there is a short note that reads:


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How about that? Smiles.

And then, what if you are using a web-based mail service? I was under 
the impression that even those services do offer the Trash feature, 
although they might name it indifferently.

OK, was it only a short note you are looking for, like a mail address or 
some subscription information, it might not be too hard for others to 
retype and resend the info. But what about when you ask for a 
wtep-through guide of some sort? Besides, even refinding subscription 
info or the like, might take a bit of time from others, in their sincere 
wish to help you out.

Again, I did not mean to discourage anyone from asking questions on the 
list. I just wanted to remind all, that sometimes our mistakes do call 
for a tiny bit of fooling around, on our own computer. Smiles. Let's ask 
the list, when we do not have a chance of getting to the info ourselves, 
or when we know someone might have an answer that works the best.

this list is not the worst, believe me. I have seen lists where people 
tend to ask the same old questions over and over again, or spread the 
same old story or other information. It seems no trouble, it is only a 
line or two. But did you all know, an electronic mail holds numerous 
lines. It has a load of technical information enclosed, to let the 
servers between you and the recipient know how to handle the message. If 
the mail is written in HTML, it will hold loads and hives of coding. 
All-in-all, even if you only typed in 23 characters, your actual load on 
the net servers might be more like 1000. In today's world, 1000 
characters, or approx one Kilobyte, might seem harmless. But what do you 
think, if one thousand users do the same? Or even, remember when you ask 
a question, someone has to reply, and their reply might hold even a copy 
of your message, raising the total load into the multiples. As a matter 
of fact, even small clutter on every list, might bgenerate tons of 
unnecessary net resources. And net resources are not out of the blue. 
They do take servers to spin, fans to cool, and distribution centrals 
for the cabling to operate. All of this takes electricity. Well, not 
much to bother, but still might be worth to remind us all sometimes.

BTW, it was told on the radio the other day, that when you have a video 
conference with your friend - say over services like Skype, the two of 
you are actually generating loads of net resource consumption.
"Ah," you might think, "Can't really amount into anything much. After 
all, it is all electronics!"
Surprise! At least I got quite astonished, when learning that such a 
simple video conference, actually consumes electrical power, equal to 
that of having TWO refridgerators running simultaneously and continiously.

Anyone wondered why we pay for our internet subscription? Smiles.


On 3/1/2018 4:31 PM, BK via Talk wrote:
> Hello, the other day someone posted the address to join the NVDA email
> list. I accidently deleted it. Will you please resend the info to join
> that list? Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks.
>
> Butch
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