This has not really bothered me. I turned on WE and did notice the difference. I also tried NVDA with Eloquence and it is like JAWS with no pauses. Maybe it was WE that changed Eloquence to have the pauses? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Higgins via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> To: "WindowEyes List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: "Larry Higgins" <larryhiggin...@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 11:15 AM Subject: JAWS and Eloquence
Listers, I know that this is a list devoted to our beloved Window-Eyes, and die-hards like you and me, so excuse having to bring up the fish. As it is, I am an occasional user of said screen reader, but for me there has been a major turnoff since the very first time I attempted to befriend the thing <smile>. It goes as follows. And I really hope that some of you have dealt with this issue successfully. It would seem that the folks who write the codes for JAWS have chosen to muck with their version of the Eloquence synthesizer, and by doing so, have messed up the pacing of it's delivery. The problem as I have experienced it is the matter of how Eloquence manages sentences. Instead of an appropriate pausing between sentences, JAWS Eloquence takes no pause at all for periods, but continues in a kind of blue streak affect that doesn't give one even enough time to digest the sentence as its own entity, you might say. I definitely prefer WE's pacing when it comes to sentences in particular. I'm not talking about a pregnant pause between sentences like you would get if you set it up to make such pauses, but a more natural pause in the manner of the Window-Eyes presentation. I hope this is all making sense, but it seems to me that some of you Eloquence users might know just what I am talking about, and also how to solve the problem. But who knows, maybe JAWS has simply created through their own version of Eloquence this issue, and that their is no solution at all other than a slight rewrite of their code which I'm sure I would have to move heaven and earth to convince them to do. Speaking of code, when I use my Code Factory Eloquence, the sentence pacing is correct, but they have their speed settings such that it goes a step either above or below my preferred reading level. I don't consider myself to be a total slow-poke when it comes to reading, though I like to set my reading speed at 41 when using Window-Eyes, a leisurely pace for me, but I am not quite sure of the exact speed that WE would indicate if they had been using Code Factory as their default version of Eloquence. Anyway, if some kind user would please tell me if indeed there is or is not a solution for this, and for me anyway, major issue, I would really appreciate hearing from you. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to get serious about learning JAWS, as my yearly subscription started in September of last year, but WE is still working reasonably for the apps I most often use, though less and less so it seems with each new update. But, I'm going to have to decide if it is worth paying that annual subscription fee to maintain it, or start focusing on NVDA or Narrator as my screen reader of choice. A big thanks in advance for any advice you all might have on this issue, Larry _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
