Martin Simon <grenzde...@gmail.com> writes: > 2009/8/11 Nop <ekkeh...@gmx.de>: >> >> Hi! >> >> Lauri Kytömaa schrieb: >>> _When not signed for anyone_ but where local legislation allows cyclists >>> on such routes, people used local judgement to decide whether the way >>> was built as being suitable for the common cyclist. Some claim that one >>> couldn't know what others consider suitable, but I hold the view that >>> most people can relate to what others think, if they have ever ridden a >>> bicycle after childhood. >> >> This is a rather lenient definition that is unsuitable to depict the >> German use case. That is exactly the reason for the confusion we are >> having. If something is tagged as a cycleway and I am planning to walk >> on foot, I need to know whether it is an unsigned way assumed to be >> suitable for cycling (then I may use it as a pedestrian) or whether it >> is legally dedicated to cycling (then I must not use it as a pedestrian). > > +11 > > This is also true (and occurs more often) the other way round (cycling > is forbidden on "real" footways in Germany, unless there is an extra > sign that allows it). > And I strongly don't believe this is solely a German problem...
I see the point that one has to figure out the rules and then tag, but I don't see how highway=footway or highway=cycleway vs highway=path makes a difference. For highway=cycleway, clearly bicycle=designated is implied. But we have to just define whether foot=yes or foot=no is the default, and then tag the exceptions. In the US, every bike path I've seen has also allowed pedestrians, so I'd be inclined to have foot=yes be the default, but I realize other places have different rules. With highway=path bicycle=designated there is the same ambiguity about the default for foot. So how does footway/cycleway vs path make any difference in determining the default? Or is the argument really that one group should have different defaults to make tagging more convenient?
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