I am not an architect (!) and didn't know there was a convention for steps. So 
I expect 50% of my steps are wrong as I have always simply mapped them in the 
direction of (my) travel (:<). If everyone agrees that the architects' 
convention should be adopted, could we document this? It seems to have been 
left open on the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Steps .

Elevation-derived tagging is rarely possible on steps as the elevation 
difference is usually small compared with the typical GPS vertical error. But 
the existence of steps will be important for many users - cyclists, 
wheelchairs, etc.

Mike Harris

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 22 August 2009 13:22
To: Mike Harris
Cc: talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009/8/22 Mike Harris <mik...@googlemail.com>:
> I'm with Martin on this one - up/down is better than nothing and is 
> useful in its own right on steps for example.

actually I wrote that it's IMHO not needed for steps: I draw them from down to 
up, they already have their direction. This is IMHO the "natural" way of doing 
it (as it is done like this worldwide in architecture, and I'm an architect ;-) 
). I don't see much of a benefit for ways either, but I agree that ele-nodes 
have their own problems, and therefore the incline-tag on ways could at least 
indicate some kind of inclination (probably you could use this in hilly city 
centres, where SRTM is not sufficient, to avoid inclinations on bike or 
something like this).

cheers,
Martin




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