Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > The same goes with the ODbL. Once you make a planet dump and let 15 years > pass, you can not assert any rights over the dump... so you can not assert > the ODbL. Simple as that.
Question is: 1. what about the contents themselves. Have we reached a consensus that the contents of the database are themselves not protected by copyright and do we explicitly say that we don't claim any copyright? And 2. you are wrong because ODBL tries exactly that, to assert rights over the collection even in jurisdictions where there are none, by invoking the idea of a contract - so where is it written that the contract, which may well exist in parallel to sui generis rights in Europe, also terminates after 15 years? The contributor terms should be able to answer the copyright question clearly but I'm apalled to see it has grown into a "legal document" whose foremost purpose is to *not* answer anything clearly or quickly. I think it is very sad that we can't even talk plaintext among ourselves, and to the people we are trying to attract to OSM. I'm sorry but I start getting that funny sensation when I read sentences (the "Sentences") where every second word (the "Word") is capitalised ("Capitalised") and repeated, and henceforth every capitalised word must be read with scrutiny and compared to its definition. Then we end up writing a "human language version" of the document because nobody can be bothered to read and understand the original, but we still expect them to sign the original... well I guess that's how these things go. Well, after that short diatribe - I can't answer the question for sure. We require from our contributors that they grant OSMF and any recipient of the data to do anything that would normally be restricted by copyright; this sounds like we're waiving any potential copyright protection over the contents themselves. Right? Bye Frederik _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk