You're conflating two entirely different points and as far as I can see, trolling.
On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > On 12/11/2009 21:31, SteveC wrote: >> That's half true. Nobody likes the uncertainty around CC, but >> really they want us to be PD because they don't want to give any >> data away. They'd love to suck it all in, improve it and then keep >> the improvements. Just look at the current data set they're not >> releasing, even in the middle of nowhere, Africa. > > Steve, one of the things we've learned at the Open Source Initiative > over the past 11 years is that code without community is dead code. > Well, the same thing goes for OSM data. Without the community that > created it, it's dead data. That's *exactly* the reason that folks > like Shaun and Andy complain about imports. Imports are dead data. > > So on the one hand we have OSMers saying "Don't use dead data". On > the other hand, we have you saying "Watch out for sharing our > data without restrictions! Google would use our dead data."[1] > > Seems to me that we're either all right, or we're all wrong about that > issue. Doesn't seem to me like we can be half of either. > > -- > > [1] If you think it's trivial to make additions to OSM without sharing > them back, whilst other people keep editing, consider that some of the > best minds on the planet can't make *removals* from OSM reliably. We > still have no good way to revert a changeset -- and people think that > Google can make additions which are robust in the face of changing OSM > data? And if Google *was* going to take our PD data, what's currently > stopping them from taking the data contributed by various OSM editors > who have dedicated their edits to the public domain? If they haven't > done it for YY% of OSM, it's hard to predict with a straight face that > they would do it to 100% of OSM. > > -- > --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com > Crynwr supports open source software > 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 > Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog > Yours &c. Steve _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
