Good to see that nobody cares about the wiki inconsistencies of 'locality'. Then I will fix it directly with the 'unpopulated place' version.
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Pieren <pier...@gmail.com> wrote: > On the wiki, we need to clarify some places definitions after some recent > (or not) changes: > > place=locality: > > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality: > - "place tags are for either populated areas, or for larger areas of County > sized or bigger" (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality). What is a > county ? Is it not a definition to give only in countries where this concept > exists ? It seems that germans decided that it is now a populated place > where it was clearly specified as unpopulated in the past: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:place%3Dlocality&oldid=65610 > Sorry if I missed the discussion/decision about this important point, I > didn't subscribe to all country specific mailing list. > > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place : > - "Places that have a specific name, but do not necessarily have any > geographic feature centre". (population = 0). Yeap, very clear, isn't it ? > > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places > - "An unpopulated, named place." which is the original definition > > place=isolated_dwelling: > > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place: > - "the smallest kind of human settlement" (population = not more than 2 > households). Okay, why not. I'm not against new tags, I'm against > ambiguities. > > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places > - missing > > place=farm > > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place: > - "A distinct identified farm at the node so tagged. In some countries the > official type of a residential area smaller than a hamlet". Oh dear. But is > it not "isolated_dwelling" now for "residential area smaller than a hamlet" > ? > > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dfarm > - "A farm can be a part of a human settlement > (place<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place> > =* like hamlet, village, town) that have buildings and land for farming, > usually a few central buildings around a > landuse<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse> > =farmyard <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmyard> with > landuse > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse>=farmland<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland>or > landuse > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse>=meadow<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow>surrounding > it. If the farm is not part of a bigger settlement (regarding > structure not administration) and the farm and comprising settlement itself > is not bigger than defined for isolated dwellings in your country, use > place > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place>=isolated_dwelling<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Disolated_dwelling>.". > Ah okay. If it is isolated, use "isolated_dwelling". And if it is part of an > hamlet, village, town, why the hell are you using a key place to name the > landuse=farmland ? why not simply the tag "name=*" ? If it is a manufactory, > not a farm, do you tag it landuse=industrial + place=manufactory ? I don't > understand. It's probably too simple. > > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places > - missing. To avoid advertising ? ;-) > > Pieren >
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