On 05/06/10 12:12, Jochen Topf wrote:
> Cloudmade uses OSM like everybody else under CC-BY-SA. They can't change that
> license, they can't restrict what you can do with it.

But if I use their stylesheets and their site to generate maps, they can 
restrict what I can do with the resulting renderings, right?

http://cloudmade.com/terms_conditions :

"CloudMade grants you permission to use the CloudMade Site as set forth 
in these Terms, provided that and for so long as (i) you use the 
CloudMade Site solely for your personal use; (ii) except as expressly 
permitted or indicated in these Terms, you do not download, reproduce, 
redistribute, retransmit, publish, resell, distribute, publicly display 
or otherwise exploit any portion of the CloudMade Site in any medium 
without CloudMade's prior written authorization;..."

"(b) Any use by you of any of the CloudMade Materials and CloudMade Site 
other than for your personal use is strictly prohibited. You agree not 
to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, trade, resell, distribute, or 
exploit any portion of the CloudMade Site, use of the CloudMade Site, 
access to the CloudMade Site, or Non-CloudMade Content obtained through 
the CloudMade Site, for any purpose other than for your personal use."

Also, I object to any company which has terms which say "you must agree 
to break the web":

"(k) You agree not to deep-link to the CloudMade Site and will promptly 
remove any links that CloudMade finds objectionable in its sole discretion."

That page is utterly user-unfriendly. If it said at the top "Stuff You 
Can Do" and "Stuff You Can't Do (Without Asking Us)", and had a couple 
of short lists with common things, that would be much better.

Gerv


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