On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 18:18, Mike Collinson <m...@ayeltd.biz> wrote:
> Comments in-line.
>
> At 06:14 PM 19/05/2010, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>
>>On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 16:42, Mike Collinson <m...@ayeltd.biz> wrote:
>>> Great idea, thanks for taking the initiative on this.  I had a go with your
>>> text and the underlying ideas we used to construct the terms below.
>>
>>Great, any idea about what timeframe we might be looking at for
>>rollout of it on the signup form?
>
> I will dodge that question until we have had legal review on a draft that 
> everyone is reasonably happy with but I promise to push it forward.

Has there been any update on this? Can we include the human readable terms yet?

>>> Summary of OpenStreetMap Contributor Terms:
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>There's a lot I like about it, including that it's using bullet
>>points. Those are easier to wade through. And easier to translate.
>>
>>> - Don't put in copyrighted data. It should either be your own work or
>>> something that there is clear permission to use.
>>
>>Perhaps just talk about "data you don't have permission to submit" or
>>something like that. Let's not propagate the copyrighted != non-free
>>misunderstanding.
>
> Good point. I've changed 
> http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms_Summary
>
>
>>> - You still own the bits of data you put in, i.e. you can still use them in
>>> other places.
>>>
>>> - You allow the OpenStreetMap Foundation to publish your bits of data as
>>> part of the OpenStreetMap geodata database for others to use.
>>>
>>> - The OpenStreetMap Foundation can only publish the data under a free and
>>> open license. If it fails in that, it has broken a contract with you.
>>
>>Actually, aside from these terms is "free and open license" defined
>>anywhere as the OSMF is using it? Some define it as "licenses approved
>>be the OSI + FSF, but that's obviously not true in our case.
>
> It is deliberately not defined. The reasoning is that it is clear when a 
> license is NOT "free and open" (which is what we really, really want to 
> avoid), but we will all have ideas about what IS a "free and open" license. 
> That will promote healthy debate and will change over time. It is up to 
> future generations of mappers, not us here and now ... and certainly not by 
> that d****d License Working Group.
>
>
>>> - Until the proposed change-over, that license is the CC BY SA 2.0.  When
>>> enough existing contributors agree to re-license their data, that license
>>> will change to Open Database License 1.0.
>>>
>>> - The OpenStreetMap Foundation can only pick a new free license if it's
>>> approved by the OSMF membership (a foundation of paid-up members) and a 2/3
>>> majority vote of active contributors. You'll be considered an active
>>> contributor if you've edited in at least 3 out of the last 12 months and
>>> don't take longer than 3 weeks to reply to E-Mail.
>>>
>>> - If you want attribution you should add your name to the Contributors page.
>>>
>>> - To the maximum extent possible, neither you nor the OpenStreetMap
>>> Foundation are responsible for anything that might happen to folks using
>>> your data.
>>
>>FWIW I left this bit out, I don't see whe warranty footnotes need to
>>be in the summary, but perhaps the legally inclined disagree.
>
> Not critical, but I think it is worth reassuring new contributors that the 
> language protects them rather than the reverse.
>
>
>>> This is only a summary and is not legally binding. The full text can be
>>> found at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms
>
>
> Mike
> License Working Group
>
>
>

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