Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Dunno - according to your logic, a mapper who declares his edits PD > would not be allowed to edit an object that a non-PD mapper has created > (because what the PD mapper uploads would be based on a non-PD source). >
That is different, as the PD vs non-PD is "within the system" and thus there is full accountability due to the history. That is not the case when I a bring new data into OSM by tracing from other sources. At that point I vouch for that I have the rights to do it in the way I have told OSM I will. I.e. with full PD rights. Which, if you are deriving from licensed Data you can't do. Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Personally, I view the "I declare my edits PD" button as reading > > "I hereby declare that I will not pursue copyright on any copyrightable > action I might make in OSM" > <sarcastically spoken> Can I do the same with Google Maps? I won't pursue any copyright on my actions. I just conveniently forgot to mention that the data isn't mine to give that permission in the first place. </sarcastically spoken> Of cause, if the "I declare my edits PD" really doesn't currently and never will mean anything, then of cause it doesn't matter what state that flag has. But then what's the point of having that flag if not even you your self sticks to it and due to that noone will ever be allowed to take it seriously in the future? Frederik Ramm wrote: > > 388 users have declared their edits to be PD on the Wiki for a long > time, and I don't think any of them have restricted their editing to PD > sources exclusively. > That seems wrong then. If you declare that your edits are PD, then surly you must live with the consequences that you can't use anything other than PD sources or those you have copyright in. Otherwise you can state "you are generally a supporter of PD, but this wonderful dataset you really like prevents your contributions to be PD, so you'll ignore your general support for PD for the moment and license these edits under SA instead". But you can't say your edits are PD. So imho, we either take this "I declare my edits PD" seriously, or it should be dropped to not confuse people. Kai -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-New-contributors-and-some-data-sources-are-not-allowed-under-the-CTs-but-too-easy-to--tp5441594p5442270.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
