Thanks for your reply. I've fixed your speling and the grammar. and you're punctuation and you have several run-on sentences with tense problems that I am fixed. -russ
David Murn writes: > On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 20:30 -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: > > > Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that you are correct. Have you > > ever tried to join a committee and been rebuffed? > > For the past 2 years I've been a secretary of a national non-profit > organisation in my country. If we had made decisions and > communicated with the group in the way OSMF has done, I can only > imagine the outrage (it would be similar to the feelings of many > here currently). If I wrote minutes as sparsely and incompletely > as the various committees and groups wrote their minutes, I'd be > asked if I needed help. I imagine by the 2nd meeting I would > not be allowed to get away with such sloppy work again. > > > I had gotten SO TIRED of people who complained that we weren't "open" > > enough or "transparent" enough. Had any of those people EVER come to > > us and asked if they could help us with anything? > > What do you think would have happened if OSI decided to do > something like change their policies or their logo? No discussion, > nor any announcement until someone noticed and asked what happened. > > > The future belongs to those who show up, not those who whinge about > > work that has been done. > > Unfortunately, being involved in an OSMF (or SWG, LWG, DWG, etc) > meeting isn't as easy as 'just showing up'. In fact, it's not > possible to be involved by reading the minutes or the meeting > notes. Those of us who wish to be involved join public discussions > and forums. Apparently those who are actually in the positions of > power are no longer interested in public discussions and forums. > Exactly how was anyone to have 'shown up' to discussions about a > new logo? The first that 99.9% of us became aware of the change was > when someone asked HERE. This was after it had already been decided > and changed. > > David > -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com Passive-aggressive, check. Yeah, I'm a BOFH. 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk