Am 14.06.2011 um 15:43 schrieb andrzej zaborowski:

> Hi,
> 
> On 14 June 2011 15:29, Jonas Krückel <jona...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Am 14.06.2011 um 14:29 schrieb davespod:
>> 
>> Well, it would be nice and we could certainly ask for it, but with CC-BY-SA
>> only the end product falls under the license and not the processed data in
>> between.
> 
> Are you sure?  If we manage to extract the processed data, it'll be
> derived from either the end product or OSM or both, so it needs to be
> CC-By-SA too and there's no way around it.

Yes, that's right. What I was trying to say is, that they only need to release 
the end product under CC-BY-SA and don't have to _provide_ any data sets from 
in between.

> 
>> Once we move on to ODbL however, this will change and we will get
>> the much more interesting 'raw' data.
> 
> Which we can't re-use in OSM however.

Maybe you should explain why not, because from my understanding this data would 
be in an OSM compatible license because of the share-a-like aspect of ODbL [1].

> 
> Someone on IRC mentioned that the situation would be clearer under
> ODbL, too, but I think this is a false positive.  Additionally with
> ODbL Navigon may take the position that they made a produced work.

Yes, their POI packages maybe produced work and could be proprietary, but they 
would still have to release the processed OSM data from in between, which as I 
stated above might be more interesting to us.

All that is only on how I understand the license and I'm not an expert on this. 
Also, I think it would be appropriate to continue this discussion on legal-talk.

-- Jonas

[1] http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/
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