On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:56:01 -0500 Serge Wroclawski <emac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems every six months or so, a new set of license troll > "discussions" come up. > > It's the same people. I can name names if necessary, but I think the > old timers mostly know who the trolls are by now. > > They suck energy from the lists, they suck energy from the projects. > They criticize the process, they say moving forward is "harming the > community". They bitch, they moan, they are "helpful", they throw up > procedural roadblocks. > > And they get old timers involved, and newbies confused/scared, and I'm > sick of it. > > > OSMF- stop being wimps and start standing up for the project. Stop > hiding behind procedure, and start working toward cohesion and > momentum. Free discussion is important, but allowing a community to do > its work is also important, and when the same trolls infect the lists > over and over, it's time to say no, and to confront their nonsense > with clear facts, clear communication, and clear action. > > I suggest that, for the immediate situation, a few things happen: > > 1. The LWG appoint a single person to speak for the LWG/OSMF on this > matter. That one person can make definitive statements, and not be > stiffled with committee talk. > > 2. The LWG put out clear guidelines on what's happening, when, and > how. What data will be removed, how we can identify it, when it's > going away, and how we can fix it. > > 3. The list moderators need to step up and do their jobs. This > nonsense is disruptive and it needs to end. Discussion is fine, but > inflammatory language and lies are not. > > > I'm feeling quite frustrated. I care about this project and I'm > needing to be able to be productive, and this stuff seriously detracts > from being able to accomplish that. > > - Serge Well said mick _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
