Jeff, A couple thoughts...
With respect to best practices, I presented some ideas for US mappers at this year's State of the Map on improving address tags[1]. Feel free to review my presentation and comment (here or on the Talk-US list). I still intend to put together an RFC and solicit more feedback from the community. There are also pointers to more resources on the OSM wiki under Address Improvement[2]. I'd invite you to contribute to the page and note any peculiarities with addresses in your region. Best, -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." -- Einstein [1] http://www.slideshare.net/geomantic/so-tm-121014 [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, <talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Send talk mailing list submissions to > talk@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. How to improve addressing? (Jeff Meyer) > 2. Re: How to improve addressing? (Martijn van Exel) > 3. Re: How to improve addressing? (Svavar Kjarrval) > 4. Re: How to improve addressing? (deng dongpo) > 5. Re: How to improve addressing? (Philip Barnes) > 6. Re: How to improve addressing? (Toby Murray) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:34:38 -0800 > From: Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org> > To: OpenStreetMap Talk Mailing List <talk@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing? > Message-ID: > <CAA1fFezcqfcJxLV-PwxMMJ= > gtzkdwhdgulmkird5gzwnuct...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > At SOTM US 2012, SteveC mentioned addressing as a high priority for making > OSM more usable, etc. > > Does anyone have a primer on best practices for improving OSM addressing > quality quickly & efficiently? > > For example, I like to walk around my hood, drawing houses & adding house > numbers, but that strikes me as inefficient for making any significant > impact (although it is strangely therapeutic) on a larger scale. Should we > be marking block numbers, etc., to provide a max / min for each block? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > > -- > Jeff Meyer > Global World History Atlas > www.gwhat.org > j...@gwhat.org > 206-676-2347 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20121109/d5ed5aa6/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:47:54 -0700 > From: Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> > To: Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org> > Cc: OpenStreetMap Talk Mailing List <talk@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing? > Message-ID: > < > cagcum_6zzxfmrs73b-tf1qfyr_msnrumdhna_sb-zhpowzc...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Do you have an Android device? You might like KeypadMapper: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/KeypadMapper > > (Have still yet to try it myself! Will install it immediately) > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org> wrote: > > At SOTM US 2012, SteveC mentioned addressing as a high priority for > making > > OSM more usable, etc. > > > > Does anyone have a primer on best practices for improving OSM addressing > > quality quickly & efficiently? > > > > For example, I like to walk around my hood, drawing houses & adding house > > numbers, but that strikes me as inefficient for making any significant > > impact (although it is strangely therapeutic) on a larger scale. Should > we > > be marking block numbers, etc., to provide a max / min for each block? > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Meyer > > Global World History Atlas > > www.gwhat.org > > j...@gwhat.org > > 206-676-2347 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk mailing list > > talk@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > > > -- > Martijn van Exel > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ (personal) > http://openstreetmap.us/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 19:58:42 +0000 > From: Svavar Kjarrval <sva...@kjarrval.is> > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing? > Message-ID: <509d6072.4060...@kjarrval.is> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have good experience with OsmPad ( > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmPad). Although you can't actually > draw houses in it, you can mark addresses and it's especially good if > you have already drawn the houses. > > - Svavar Kjarrval > > On 09/11/12 19:34, Jeff Meyer wrote: > > At SOTM US 2012, SteveC mentioned addressing as a high priority for > > making OSM more usable, etc. > > > > Does anyone have a primer on best practices for improving OSM > > addressing quality quickly & efficiently? > > > > For example, I like to walk around my hood, drawing houses & adding > > house numbers, but that strikes me as inefficient for making any > > significant impact (although it is strangely therapeutic) on a larger > > scale. Should we be marking block numbers, etc., to provide a max / > > min for each block? > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Meyer > > Global World History Atlas > > www.gwhat.org <http://www.gwhat.org> > > j...@gwhat.org <mailto:j...@gwhat.org> > > 206-676-2347 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk mailing list > > talk@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20121109/ade5bb6e/attachment-0001.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 836 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20121109/ade5bb6e/attachment-0001.pgp > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:08:35 -0800 > From: deng dongpo <dongpo.d...@gmail.com> > To: Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org> > Cc: OpenStreetMap Talk Mailing List <talk@openstreetmap.org>, OSM > Taiwan <talk...@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing? > Message-ID: > <CA+k-deLknA9= > wyy37e2z-kjx-s667pz-7vzloy_msde7jv5...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Jeff and all > I heard that the SteveC considered an address is high priority for > making OSM more usable from Dan Cooke, who is a keynote in ACM > GeoCrowd. http://www.geocrowd.eu/workshop_2012/ > > Coincidentally, Taiwan OSM community is running a map contest on how > many addresses mappers make after SotM this year in Japan. This is > because a T-shit received from OSM Japan after SotM. In order to send > this T-shit to Taiwan mappers, we started the map contest. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Taiwan/2012_Competition > > Few people registered this contest, but many TW mappers are attracted > to make address on the map. I would not say that this contest is > successful. At least, we encouraged more Taiwanese mappers to give > address data. > > Cheers, > Dongpo > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org> wrote: > > At SOTM US 2012, SteveC mentioned addressing as a high priority for > making > > OSM more usable, etc. > > > > Does anyone have a primer on best practices for improving OSM addressing > > quality quickly & efficiently? > > > > For example, I like to walk around my hood, drawing houses & adding house > > numbers, but that strikes me as inefficient for making any significant > > impact (although it is strangely therapeutic) on a larger scale. Should > we > > be marking block numbers, etc., to provide a max / min for each block? > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Meyer > > Global World History Atlas > > www.gwhat.org > > j...@gwhat.org > > 206-676-2347 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk mailing list > > talk@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:49:47 +0000 > From: Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> > To: "OSM Talk" <talk@openstreetmap.org> > Cc: OpenStreetMap Talk Mailing List <talk@openstreetmap.org>, OSM > Taiwan <talk...@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing? > Message-ID: <3w79g.md8pza.1di2p32-...@auth.smtp.oneandone.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I think you mean t-shirt, made me smile anyway. > > Phil > -- > > Sent from my Nokia N9 > > > > On 09/11/2012 20:08 deng dongpo wrote: > > Hi Jeff and all > I heard that the SteveC considered an address is high priority for > making OSM more usable from Dan Cooke, who is a keynote in ACM > GeoCrowd. http://www.geocrowd.eu/workshop_2012/ > > > Coincidentally, Taiwan OSM community is running a map contest on how > many addresses mappers make after SotM this year in Japan. This is > because a T-shit received from OSM Japan after SotM. In order to send > this T-shit to Taiwan mappers, we started the map contest. > > http://www.geocrowd.eu/workshop_2012/ > > > Few people registered this contest, but many TW mappers are attracted > to make address on the map. I would not say that this contest is > successful. At least, we encouraged more Taiwanese mappers to give > address data. > > > Cheers, > Dongpo > > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org> wrote: > > At SOTM US 2012, SteveC mentioned addressing as a high priority for > making > > OSM more usable, etc. > > > > Does anyone have a primer on best practices for improving OSM addressing > > quality quickly & efficiently? > > > > For example, I like to walk around my hood, drawing houses & adding house > > numbers, but that strikes me as inefficient for making any significant > > impact (although it is strangely therapeutic) on a larger scale. Should > we > > be marking block numbers, etc., to provide a max / min for each block? > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Meyer > > Global World History Atlas > > www.gwhat.org > > j...@gwhat.org > > 206-676-2347 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk mailing list > > j...@gwhat.org > > http://www.geocrowd.eu/workshop_2012/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk mailing list > > j...@gwhat.org > http://www.geocrowd.eu/workshop_2012/ > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20121109/da13a195/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:22:43 -0600 > From: Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> > To: OpenStreetMap Talk Mailing List <talk@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing? > Message-ID: > <CAJeqKgv+JBt0U_NNJpoYd=RCzwKm8ovtdd=sYzV3YJ57_= > 2...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org> wrote: > > At SOTM US 2012, SteveC mentioned addressing as a high priority for > making > > OSM more usable, etc. > > > > Does anyone have a primer on best practices for improving OSM addressing > > quality quickly & efficiently? > > > > For example, I like to walk around my hood, drawing houses & adding house > > numbers, but that strikes me as inefficient for making any significant > > impact (although it is strangely therapeutic) on a larger scale. Should > we > > be marking block numbers, etc., to provide a max / min for each block? > > Doing anything in OSM as a single user in an inefficient way of making > a significant impact. This is why we call it "crowd" sourcing :) > > Yes, you can use an address interpolation[1] to do a whole block at a > time. Here in the US I kind of feel like this is a waste of time > though since Nominatim already pulls in what is essentially an address > interpolation from external TIGER data. So if I'm going to add address > information I might as well make it better than what is already > available. But in places without such external data I think address > interpolations are a decent way of getting address coverage done > quickly. Although I'm not sure if anything besides Nominatim really > supports interpolations... > > Beyond that, I think it comes down to the same thing it always comes > down to. More mappers. Specifically for address data I think there is > a lot we can do to simplify the process. For example, if all I want to > do is add an address and maybe some contact info to a POI that already > exists, why do I need a full featured geospatial data editor like P2 > or JOSM? Why not a simple web form? I think as OSM gets into more > maintenance of existing data as opposed to adding of new data, simple > tag editors will be a good thing anyway. > > Oh and KeypadMapper is definitely a winner. I was able to collect > about 120 residential addresses on a single stroll around my > neighborhood. It took me longer to process the data once I got home > but that's because I ended up drawing outlines of each house as I > placed the address node from the KeypadMapper file. > > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#Using_interpolation > > Toby > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > End of talk Digest, Vol 99, Issue 19 > ************************************ >
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