On these lines my one-liner for OSM is that it is

"A project to create the best community-produced Open Geo Data set of the
whole world of any (verifiable) physical object (and some non-physical
data, too)."

So, my key points in that are:
1) Open Geodata
2) of all data, _integrated_ (no layers, at least yet; carries the
centuries/millenia old tradition of handicraft vs. automation)
3) to which any and everyone is equally welcome to contribute to (with
equal weight - meritocracy); with any appropriate data source, including
gov data

Cheers,
-Jaakko

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On Nov 26, 2012 9:19 AM, "Joseph Reeves" <iknowjos...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apologies for bringing up imports on the list. At least I didn't mention
> the license change though! ;)
>
> >That's not wrong either, but not precise enough to distinguish a project
> >such as OSM from e.g. governments' Open Data efforts.
>
> Continuing to play Devil's Advocate, I think this is just an issue of
> imagination scope: Why do we need to distinguish OSM from governments' Open
> Data efforts? Does that bring us any benefit? Are you trying to highlight a
> difference of scale or is there one type of "Open" that's different from
> some "other Open"?
>
> I'd like to imagine a future scenario in which a country's National
> Mapping Agency decides that OSM is going to be the official source of
> geographic data. As an NMA contributes and maintains data within OSM, the
> "crowdsourced" argument becomes weaker and the "Open" word becomes more
> important.
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
> On 26 November 2012 13:43, Tobias Knerr <o...@tobias-knerr.de> wrote:
>
>> On 26.11.2012 14:06, Joseph Reeves wrote:
>> > Playing Devil's Advocate, "crowdsourced" isn't appropriate for large
>> > swathes of OSM data: Europe, for example, is dominated by imported, not
>> > crowdsourced, CORINE data.
>>
>> I don't believe that Europe is "dominated" by CORINE data. Several
>> European countries never imported CORINE, and elsewhere most of the work
>> would still consist of roads and other non-landuse data.
>>
>> Also consider that imports today almost necessarily have to be performed
>> with manual interaction (to avoid duplicates and so on) and by various
>> individuals. So even when imports take place, they are done in a
>> "crowdsourced" manner.
>>
>> So I think "crowdsourced" is the most appropriate term that is still
>> meaningful.
>>
>> > I'd describe OSM data simply as "open".
>>
>> That's not wrong either, but not precise enough to distinguish a project
>> such as OSM from e.g. governments' Open Data efforts. That's because it
>> overlaps with open licensing, which I assume will be stored separately
>> in metadata, and various other associations of the term.
>>
>> Tobias
>>
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