Hi John

I think some EU countries (and Switzerland) also have this 5 years rule.
But I'm not a professional lawyer.
If anybody is, then I suggest that he could offer his services to the
OSMF as a volunteer (e.g. for a 2nd opinion).

Yours, Stefan


2013/2/4 John F. Eldredge <j...@jfeldredge.com>:
> Russ Nelson <nel...@crynwr.com> wrote:
>
>> Having read some more on this issue, I think the board has done the
>> right thing. Apologies to anyone offended.
>>
>> Christopher Woods (IWD) writes:
>>  > On 02/02/2013 21:01, Aun Yngve Johnsen wrote:
>> > > This discussion is way out of hand. You guys screaming for
>> publishing the C+D, didn't you see the answer from SimonPoole? They
>> have asked lawyers about advise in publishing it, as well as releasing
>> more information about it. It is not a sign of weak leadership to ask
>> for legal advise in a case that can be as hairy as trademark and
>> copyright issues.
>>
>> > I'm extremely interested to see what in the notice specifies that
>> the TM
>> > holder believes that they can pursue and control usage when
>> mentioned in
>>  > proximity of Google services.
>>
>> Again, without access to the C&D, is that in spite of having allowed
>> generic usage of "geocode" for the last 12 years since their trademark
>> was granted, they now claim that "geocode" in the context of a Google
>> geocoding URL is a trademark infringement. As Chris says, risible.
>>
>> Deleting our links to the Google URL is the correct thing to do,
>> because there is no way to link to that service without infringing
>> their trademark (claim).
>>
>> My offer to create a non-infringing gateway stands.
>>
>> > Redacting or editing directly as a result of simply receiving a C&D
>> is
>> > not an ideal first step. Does OSM consider itself to be in breach of
>>
>> > something discussed in the C&D or that it has actually done
>> something
>>  > wrong? I unequivocally believe the opposite to be true - and that
>>  > Geocode Inc. is misrepresenting the situation.
>>
>> The problem is that it's not OSM infringing the trademark. It's
>> *Google*.
>
> If they have, indeed, allowed the generic use of the term "geocode" for 12 
> years without challenging it, then I believe that, under US law, the term is 
> now legally classed as generic, and can be used by anyone.  According to 
> <http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Trademark_infringement>, while there is no 
> Federal law explicitly stating a statute of limitations, one Federal court 
> decided that such cases were subject to the general five-year limit for 
> non-capital offenses under Title 18 of the US Code.  Usually, the Federal 
> courts follow the precedents set by the most similar state case.
>
> --
> John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
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> think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
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