2013/5/7 Peter Wendorff <wendo...@uni-paderborn.de>:
> you would not delete the whole object and add a new object with the
> building tag alone, right?

I said that it's up to the mapper to decide - as its common in OSM.
External services which link to this object through the permanent id
have to cope with this.

Yours, Stefan

2013/5/7 Peter Wendorff <wendo...@uni-paderborn.de>:
> Unfortunately I'm too busy to investigate how much elements in OSM
> change their meaning instead of deleting the old and creating the new
> object.
>
> In addition your "fooling the concept" is not correct. If a supermarket
> is abandoned, and was tagged as a building + name + shop=supermarket,
> you would not delete the whole object and add a new object with the
> building tag alone, right?
>
> regards
> Peter
>
> Am 07.05.2013 10:25, schrieb Stefan Keller:
>> 2013/5/7 Peter Wendorff <wendo...@uni-paderborn.de>:
>>> Look what happens in OSM all the time: POIs are moved slightly to match
>>> aerial images - following your definition that should be another ID now
>>
>> No, That's one of the nice properties of ids without coordinates!
>> To me it would remain the same - except when a tool or the user is
>> fooling the concept.
>> At least the tools you can debug.
>>
>> Yours, Stefan
>>
>> 2013/5/7 Peter Wendorff <wendo...@uni-paderborn.de>:
>>> Am 07.05.2013 09:58, schrieb Stefan Keller:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> You wrote:
>>>>> - it's roughly in that bounding box (e.g. the city or a given part of
>>>>
>>>> A soon as you use the word "roughly" - the id approach is doomed to fail.
>>>> According to OO and database technology an id is a well-defined
>>>> surrogate with a well-defined data type.
>>>
>>> Then it's not the same "permanent" we talk about.
>>> Look what happens in OSM all the time: POIs are moved slightly to match
>>> aerial images - following your definition that should be another ID now
>>> - but that's not what people usually want if they request for a
>>> permanent ID, similar to changes from node to polygon to multipolyogn etc.
>>>
>>> "It's in that bounding box" nevertheless would have been the better
>>> wording, (equalling "is roughly at that position, so if you want to use
>>> roughly/estimation, it's possible even then).
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Peter
>>
>

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