Hi Matt, I am exploring existing solutions at the infrastructure level that solves the holistic problem rather than the specific use case.
Cheers! Bimal On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Matt McNabb <mmcn...@caerusassociates.com>wrote: > Hi Bimal > > The problem you've raised is something I have faced almost everywhere I > work. As the paper that you > cited<http://www.upu.int/fileadmin/documentsFiles/activities/addressingAssistance/paperAddressingAddressingTheWorldAnAddressForEveryoneEn.pdf> > and > the LA Times Article<http://articles.latimes.com/2000/aug/01/news/mn-62534> > noted > on the wiki suggests, the absence of systematic street addressing poses a > major challenge for certain government and business functions; precisely > why organizations like the World Bank have invested so much in systematic > addressing > efforts<http://siteresources.worldbank.org/CMUDLP/Resources/461753-1160058503655/Street_Addressing_Manual.pdf>. > That said, you're right... this is way too slow and unreliable for most > people to wait on it. > > The way that we always end up having to face this is by mapping key POIs > that are important for local map orientation or direction giving. This can > be difficult because of classifications and visibility of those icons for > less traditional POIs (eg things like near 'the mango tree' that might no > longer physically exist, or a housing compound no longer inhabited by the > person with whose name it is associated). Once we have a sufficiently high > density of these POIs on a map, it becomes significantly more usable for > localized orientation. > > These locally important POIs also appear to be how proprietary providers > like Google Maps handles directions for poorly addressed parts of the world > as well. If anyone has more on how they do it, I'd be very keen to read > about it. > > From there we built a BETA of something presently called > CaerusGEO<http://www.caerusgeo.com> which > allows us to place gridsquares over OSM and generate an Atlas from it. This > gives us the ability to place manageable, easy to orient paper maps in the > hands of those institutions (government, ngo, business) that want to > collect data with a higher order of precision. It is orders of magnitude > more precision than how data is presently collected, but also significantly > less precise than were street addressing available. > > A sample use case for this solution might be crime mapping. Police officer > or NGO uses 'social POIs' to orient on a map (paper or mobile) where > streets are traced but lack names and addresses. They mark an 'X' and > incident number where the event occurred by orienting off of the POIs that > have been placed there, then they upload to view heat maps and other > visualizations on top of OSM through the system. > > This would likely be an extremely poor solution for mail handling, > however, where the level of fidelity required must be extremely precise > rather than approximated. So again, I think it depends upon the precise > problem set that one is trying to overcome in the absence of addresses and > the level of acceptable fidelity for that use case. > > Did you have a specific use case in mind? Or is your aim to develop a more > holistic alternative to street addressing entirely? > > Matt > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:21 AM, bibekshres...@gmail.com < > bibekshres...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The mail raises an interesting issue. For developing nations like Nepal, >> waiting for local administration to start mapping and give names to the >> streets take quite a long time. >> >> I would be interested to know if someone has an alternative solution that >> is modern enough (digital) independent of local administration and easier >> to do with a click of a button - online. >> >> -- >> Bibek Shrestha >> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha >> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to >> Arthur, Inception 2010 >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Ben Abelshausen < >> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk>wrote: >>> >>>> Use OSM as a base for a local campaign ... >>> >>> >>> That is something that worked very will in Yaoundé, Cameroon. Showing >>> the OSM-tools, maps, OsmAnd can really get things going! In Cameroon people >>> were very impressed with what was possible with little resources using OSM! >>> >>> This could be a very good way for you to start... >>> >>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ben Abelshausen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > > > -- > > Matthew R. McNabb -Principal > Caerus Associates LLC > ---------------------------------------- > Main (US): +1 703.649.5300 > Mobile (US): +1 202.560.0946 > Mobile (UK): +44 (0)797.999.7467 > Mobile (Liberia): +231 (0)880533042 > Skype: mmcnabb.caerus > > -- Cheers! Bimal
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