Hi!
Ian Dees wrote > Thanks for sharing your opinion, but please refrain from posting sarcastic > and overly dramatic stories like this. This message is not an appropriate > way to communicate with the community. Well, just take it as an indication that some changes can inspire emotional responses in the unsuspecting user who encounters them. :-) Ian Dees wrote > If you want to have a discussion about the website, please stick to the > facts and don't use unsubstantiated words like "royal pain", "what was > wrong with the old way", "major regression", or "disaster". Admittedly, those words may be overly dramatic, but they are also very descriptive of the overall effect. Re-reading the other posts I noted that the same problem has already been mentioned several times - but a "harder to read" does not really describe the experience of trying to find a clue in 60 pages of multiply word wrapped texts that used to be simple one liners. You may also note the other post which characterizes the history as "unusable mess". To stick to the facts: - The old history page was far from perfect, but it did allow analysis of the tag history and was well integrated in the object lookup - The narrow and elongated presentation in the new design is unsuitable for the amount of data involved with older, non-trivial objects - the function used to be essential for "tag debugging" - it is being missed The best fix would be simply restoring the old feature as it has no dependency whatsoever to the main map. Another fix would be a rework including a button to use the whole screen for viewing the data or linking to the real, usable history viewer and moving the history button itself to the top of the object view where it can actually be seen. Current alternatives seem to be using JOSM or alternative web tools which are more cumbersome as they are not integrated. Or hacking the OSM page with a greasemonkey script or the stylish FF plugin. I personally cannot fathom what may have inspired the current history. I am somewhat ashamed about the message obviously unusable tools on the main page might advertise about the practical approach of OSM. bye, Nop -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Examine-nodes-in-new-osm-org-design-fail-tp5789081p5789224.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk