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On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:30 PM, <talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Send talk mailing list submissions to > talk@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Antennas and radio networks supports mapping (Dave Stanley) > 2. Re: Antennas and radio networks supports mapping > (François Lacombe) > 3. Re: Antennas and radio networks supports mapping (Marc Zoutendijk) > 4. Re: Antennas and radio networks supports mapping (Suzan Reed) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:15:34 +0100 > From: Dave Stanley <da...@dbsconsult.co.uk> > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Antennas and radio networks supports mapping > Message-ID: <55a64ee6.9090...@dbsconsult.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi > > I map quite few radio sites in connection with my work. Usually it is > just mast/tower locations using the 'man_made=tower + > tower:type=communication' tags with name/operator information. There > are quite few things for these towers that could be improved. For > example the difference between a tower and a mast - a mast in the UK is > normally considered to have guy wires to hold it up. where as a tower > supports itself. May masts are big enough to justify the guy wires > being mapped with their ground anchor points. I am not aware of anything > suitable to do that. > > There is also their feed line systems. I have used power=line to map > some of these, as in this example in Burma: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.86624/96.16177 > > It is not ideal, but the closest I could think of. Medium-wave > broadcasts sites typically have very long feeder systems that can be > mapped, as in the example. > > As for the antennas mounted on a mast/tower, you then may need to > consider the frequencies and operators that use the antennas. In some > cases there will be multiple frequencies and operators. Physically, you > would need the antenna height above ground level, direction, possibly > which leg it is on and so on. > > Lots to think about. > > Regards > > > Dave > > > > On 15/07/2015 12:25, François Lacombe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just wanted to share some thoughts about antennas and radio supports > > mapping on this list. > > > > There are currently several tags in use to map telecommunication or > > radio broadcast supports : > > man_made=tower + tower:type=communication > > man_made=telecommunication_tower > > and so on... > > > > but this won't allow us to add antennas on them at all or describe how > > these supports are used. > > Antennas and stations (relations of supports + antennas + cabinets) > > may be interesting too. > > > > Some French mappers and I are currently looking for a sustainable > > model to map radio sites, radio stations, supports and antennas since > > our regulator allows free datasets to be downloaded and part of them > > can be added on the map (Etalab license compatible with OdBL). > > The point is to add references (ref:FR:ANFR) on right objects first as > > for linking to the whole dataset which shouldn't be imported in OSM > > (only technical data and not so geographical) > > > > I've proposed such things (unfortunately only in French for the > > moment) but it's not finalized or transposable on the map > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Radio_antennas_mapping_proposal.png > > > > The problem is to add several antennas on the support itself > > (sometimes on masts, sometimes at the top of buildings). > > Supports can be composed of several decks and several antennas can > > share same lat/lng (but different elev) and currently can't be added > > as nodes. Relations can really be a pain to maintain in such situation > > too. > > > > May someone have idea and help solving the issue without adding 3rd > > dimension to OSM model? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > François > > > > -- > > *François Lacombe* > > > > fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com > > www.infos-reseaux.com <http://www.infos-reseaux.com> > > @InfosReseaux <http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk mailing list > > talk@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:16:13 +0200 > From: François Lacombe <fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> > To: Dave Stanley <da...@dbsconsult.co.uk> > Cc: "talk@openstreetmap.org" <talk@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Antennas and radio networks supports mapping > Message-ID: > <CAG0ygLcmrnQtN4Cw8HXc3xVjsKNREY+nxsCOeHM0KU= > s1_j...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you Dave, > > > 2015-07-15 14:15 GMT+02:00 Dave Stanley <da...@dbsconsult.co.uk>: > > > Hi > > > > I map quite few radio sites in connection with my work. Usually it is > > just mast/tower locations using the 'man_made=tower + > > tower:type=communication' tags with name/operator information. There are > > quite few things for these towers that could be improved. For example > the > > difference between a tower and a mast - a mast in the UK is normally > > considered to have guy wires to hold it up. where as a tower supports > > itself. May masts are big enough to justify the guy wires being mapped > > with their ground anchor points. I am not aware of anything suitable to > do > > that. > > > > Ok to say definitions and keys are a bit messy. It's only about supports > which can be refined independently. > > > > > > There is also their feed line systems. I have used power=line to map > some > > of these, as in this example in Burma: > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.86624/96.16177 > > > > It is not ideal, but the closest I could think of. Medium-wave > broadcasts > > sites typically have very long feeder systems that can be mapped, as in > the > > example. > > > > This is interesting > I didn't see the use of power=line like that but it can be adjusted. > Wouldn't you add frequency=* and usage=radio on such lines ? It may allow > consumers to distinguish them from standard electricity transmission lines. > > RF can be used at high power rates : The CERN currently use them at hundred > of MW to power up its accelerator. > > > > > As for the antennas mounted on a mast/tower, you then may need to > consider > > the frequencies and operators that use the antennas. In some cases there > > will be multiple frequencies and operators. Physically, you would need > the > > antenna height above ground level, direction, possibly which leg it is on > > and so on. > > > > Antennas have many characteristics but only a few are relevant in OSM. > It may be better to give a manufacturer name and model reference to get > such details directly from other databases. > > Azimuth (if applicable), position and model information are the only data > required there, aren't you ? > If the antenna works on several frequencies (based upon it's model number > and manufacturer capabilities), the usage of those frequencies can depend > on the "radio stations" relations the antenna is member of. > > > Lots to think about. > > > Indeed, can't wait to go forward about this topic > > > Regards > > François > > -- > *François Lacombe* > > fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com > www.infos-reseaux.com > @InfosReseaux <http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20150715/26569fc6/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:10:07 +0200 > From: Marc Zoutendijk <marczoutend...@mac.com> > To: Dave Stanley <da...@dbsconsult.co.uk> > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Antennas and radio networks supports mapping > Message-ID: <cc362cba-3b63-47ad-9ea3-fdd348cd0...@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi, Regarding the tagging of communication towers, you should probably > also read this discussion: > > > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1366#issuecomment-81632042 > < > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1366#issuecomment-81632042 > > > > because in a proposal to show man_made=tower on the standard mapnik > rendering, the result of this would be that all those communication towers > would show up on the map incorrectly. > This might also help: > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecommunications_tower > < > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecommunications_tower > > > > regards, > > Marc. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20150715/d4f8000f/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:27:40 -0700 > From: Suzan Reed <su...@suzanreed.com> > To: François Lacombe <fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> > Cc: "talk@openstreetmap.org" <talk@openstreetmap.org>, Dave B > <k7...@isp.com> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Antennas and radio networks supports mapping > Message-ID: <82d46e38-172b-47b0-b620-8ea829b29...@suzanreed.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > May I suggest contacting the American Radio Relay League, ARRL? With all > the technically knowledgable people in the organization, and their interest > in humanitarian readiness (ARES) they are sure to have information useful > to map antennas. > > "The American Radio Relay League is the largest membership association of > amateur radio enthusiasts in the USA. ARRL is a non-profit organization, > and was founded in 6th April 1914." Members operate world wide and track > their contacts using a number of different kinds of antenna, and each has a > specific “tag”. > > www.aarl.org > > A place to start: Dave Becker k...@isp.com. If he doesn’t have the > information himself, he can recommend someone to talk with. > > Hope this is of some help. > Suzan Reed > > > > > > > > I map quite few radio sites in connection with my work. Usually it is > just mast/tower locations using the 'man_made=tower + > tower:type=communication' tags with name/operator information. There are > quite few things for these towers that could be improved. For example the > difference between a tower and a mast - a mast in the UK is normally > considered to have guy wires to hold it up. where as a tower supports > itself. May masts are big enough to justify the guy wires being mapped > with their ground anchor points. I am not aware of anything suitable to do > that. > > > > Ok to say definitions and keys are a bit messy. It's only about supports > which can be refined independently. > > > > > > There is also their feed line systems. I have used power=line to map > some of these, as in this example in Burma: > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.86624/96.16177 > > > > It is not ideal, but the closest I could think of. Medium-wave > broadcasts sites typically have very long feeder systems that can be > mapped, as in the example. > > > > This is interesting > > I didn't see the use of power=line like that but it can be adjusted. > > Wouldn't you add frequency=* and usage=radio on such lines ? It may > allow consumers to distinguish them from standard electricity transmission > lines. > > > > RF can be used at high power rates : The CERN currently use them at > hundred of MW to power up its accelerator. > > > > > > As for the antennas mounted on a mast/tower, you then may need to > consider the frequencies and operators that use the antennas. In some > cases there will be multiple frequencies and operators. Physically, you > would need the antenna height above ground level, direction, possibly which > leg it is on and so on. > > > > Antennas have many characteristics but only a few are relevant in OSM. > > It may be better to give a manufacturer name and model reference to get > such details directly from other databases. > > > > Azimuth (if applicable), position and model information are the only > data required there, aren't you ? > > If the antenna works on several frequencies (based upon it's model > number and manufacturer capabilities), the usage of those frequencies can > depend on the "radio stations" relations the antenna is member of. > > > > > > Lots to think about. > > Indeed, can't wait to go forward about this topic > > > > > > Regards > > > > François > > > > -- > > François Lacombe > > > > fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com > > www.infos-reseaux.com > > @InfosReseaux > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk mailing list > > talk@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > ------------------------------ > > End of talk Digest, Vol 131, Issue 15 > ************************************* >
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