Hi all,

I ask myself a question about specialised proprietary format database used in 
some applications like by example smartphone routing applications.
Quite often these applications propose you to dowwnload some map files if you 
want to use them Offline.
The issue I see with this is that user is dependant of the application provider 
for map update or scope cover by map extract.
I looked at this page : 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Trivial_Transformations_-_Guidelineand
 especially part called Specialised (e.g: mobile) format databases

It is said that this is a trivial transformation and that format could be kept 
closed if data is also provided in an open format.
Ok but how to be sure that data provided in Open Format is exactly the same 
than the one contained in closed format ? by example how to check that non-OSM 
data have not been included in closed format ?

To make a parallell ( perhaps wrong ), GPLv3 requires that someone providing a 
binary using GPL code must provide the source code ( including modifiactions if 
any ) eveything needed to rebuild the binary.
"Both versions of the GPL require you to provide all the source necessary to 
build the software, including supporting libraries, compilation scripts, and so 
on. They also draw the line at System Libraries: you're not required to provide 
the source for certain core components of the operating system, such as the C 
library."
source: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.en.html
and "GPLv3 stops tivoization by requiring the distributor to provide you with 
whatever information or data is necessary to install modified software on the 
device."



Do the ODBL requires the same for a closed format including OSM data ? or more 
clearly does it require that application provider also provide the tool used to 
perform the conversion between OSM data and closed format ?
If yes, by consequence this would allow user to be independant of application 
provider and to regenerate by itself the maps directly from OSM data.

If this topic has already been covered somewhere sorry and I'll please you to 
provide me some pointers to the discussion

Thanks by advance for you answer
Cheers
Julien

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