On Friday 05 May 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I think that a viable middle ground could be to make user data > available to signed-up project members only, and they'd have to > promise to only use that data for project-internal purposes.
You know i have not formed an opinion on this matter yet but i wonder how this is supposed to work. Do you suggest to have an addition to the contributor terms, kind of a 'terms for access to metadata' and require existing users to newly agree to that? And after a transit period disable api access for those accounts who have not agreed? In principle that would certainly be possible although there are tons of practical problems that would come with such an approach. But ultimately this would probably lead to the vast majority of people who routinely get mapping metadata in bulk for whatever purpose to use anonymous accounts for downloading it and to also publish possibly problematic results of processing it in an anonymous way. Under this scenario there would probably be some open source HDYC clone, you could run it either privately for yourself, use an access restricted officially sanctioned instance of it with your real or anonymous OSM account or use some rouge open instance running anonymiously somewhere. For a balanced discussion - and i am not saying i would actually prefer this approach to what you are suggesting - the whole problem could also be approached from the other side by reconsidering the possibility for partly anonymous edits. We don't have this primarily to fight vandalism but it could be considered to give mappers the option to activate an anonymous editing mode on their account which would mean their edits and any other access to their user identity through for example the API gets scrambled on a daily basis and resolution of the generated random id to the real user is only available to the DWG. This would certainly also generate tons of problems but i think it is important to keep this possibility in mind when considering the matter of privacy. > Hence, > anyone with an OSM account could make such an animated progress map, > and it could be shown to anyone with an OSM account. Only if you want > to distribute it outside of OSM you'd either have to > remove/pseudonymize the user names [...] That part is really tricky, you'd have to be very specific on what kind of aggregation is necessary to make the data ok to be published. Obviously just replacing each user name with user<hash_value> is not going to cut it. Without clear rules here anyone who publishes anything based on such data would be in a legal mine field. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
