Hi Michał,

I can see value in making sure that mistakes are not accidentally introduced. 
However, I am not sure whether a bot like you describe is a wanted solution.

  *   I have concerns about false positives, when the bot considers an action 
as braking a connection and gives comment while the change is actually valid. 
This relates to what Martin brings in, false positives raise the noise level 
and the comments will therefore be ignored in the future. I don’t know what an 
acceptable level for false positives is, but there must be literature on it 
from psychology/computer sciences.
  *   Feedback by a bot as comment to a changeset is too late for maintaining 
data integrity, the mistake is already submitted to the database. The feedback 
should be given when trying to submit a changeset. I can imagine an 
implementation similar to what JOSM does for validation before submitting a 
dataset. This validation should then occur on the OSM server instead, or access 
to the changeset API should only be allowed for applications that have decent 
validation implemented. The second option is maybe preferable from a money 
perspective, since the calculations will be done locally and no server capacity 
is required. It will however put more requirements on hardware and software 
used to input data.

Cheers, dikkeknodel

Van: Martin Koppenhoefer<mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>
Verzonden: woensdag 4 april 2018 11:17
Aan: Michał Brzozowski<mailto:www.ha...@gmail.com>
CC: osm<mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org>
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] QA bots commenting on changesets - your thoughts?



2018-04-04 10:44 GMT+02:00 Michał Brzozowski 
<www.ha...@gmail.com<mailto:www.ha...@gmail.com>>:
There's a bot in Poland that comments on changesets which break addresses (e.g. 
combining addr:place with addr:street), along with an explanation and links to 
forum topic.
What do you think about it? Are such bots useful or not?

while the example situation merits some kind of response, I am not sure if 
automated changeset comments are a good answer, because this will raise the 
noise level and very soon we will not find the needles in the comments haystack 
any more. Maybe the time has come for tags in changeset comments (bot=yes) ;-)
Cheers,
Martin

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