You are mixing so many different topics and misconceptions that I think you basically don't know what you're talking about. Perhaps you should read up on what is Java first...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Java_implementations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpreted_language etc. Paweł On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, at 22:06, john whelan wrote: > JAVA started as a SUN product. It is now an Oracle product. I spent > a number of years working with Oracle on license for their databases. > A number of sales people's statements about their licensing were > dubious and inconsistent so I'll admit I am slightly bias.> Having said that > if we look at the requirements then we'd like the > ability to run on UNIX and Windows. Apple are their own world and yes > it can be run but Apple don't especially like you running it.> > We'd like to be able to run the software on corporate machines. These > days many companies follow the US government's lead and say JAVA is > too much of a security risk to be allowed to install it.> We have a lot of > existing code and programmers who know JAVA. We have > a lot of existing JOSM users which means lots of tutorials and > documentation. Any changes to the interface will be expensive in > people time.> Pure JAVA is interpreted, the translation for lay people is it > needs a > more powerful computer to do the same work in the same time.> I have no > instant solutions but I do think sometimes we should try to > think things through in advance. Perhaps the biggest concern is a > major security hole opens up and Oracle will not repair it. JAVA is > not known to be highly secure at the best of times. If this happens > what is the impact?> It can be controlled to some extent in Windows by > running in a > separate user account but that too complicated for many of our users > to configure. Do we have any responsibility to our mappers to keep > their machines safe?> Dunno which is why its worth raising the matter. > > Cheerio John > > On 22 April 2018 at 15:34, Jan Martinec <j...@martinec.name> wrote: >> End of Java _8_, not all Java. Java 9 is already out, this is just a >> version upgrade. So far, I have used JOSM on Java 6, Java 7, Java 8 >> and Java 9 - this only means that ancient installations of JOSM will >> only work with an older version of JOSM. (It's still possible to run >> JOSM build 10526 on Java 7. Source: having done just that, >> yesterday).>> >> No action required w/r/t JOSM, relax. >> Cheers, >> Jan "Piskvor" Martinec >> >> Dne ne 22. 4. 2018 21:05 uživatel john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> >> napsal:>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html >>> It needs to be translated into English. For example Long Term >>> Support means no new versions per three years.>>> >>> " Basically, free Java 8 updates for commercial customers, such as >>> game developers, will cease in January 2019. After that date >>> commercial customers must have a licence to continue to receive the >>> updates.>>> >>> Free Java 8 updates for non-commercial uses, such as your home PC, >>> will continue until the end of 2020.>>> >>> As of last September Oracle have moved to a LTS (Long Term Support) >>> model for Java with new LTS versions released every 3 years - the >>> current Java 8 was released Sept 2017 so December 2020 will be the >>> end of a three year LTS cycle. ">>> Cheerio John >>> >>> On 22 April 2018 at 14:40, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:26:13 -0400 john whelan >>>> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Someone who worked at Oracle has mentioned Oracle would like to >>>> > be out of JAVA by 2020 and that is the date for individual free >>>> > licenses to expire. >>>> >>>> Source?>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > _________________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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