Dear all, how about a brief companion FAQ? I am happy to help with this (as mentioned in Milan)
Michael, would you like to collaborate on this with us? heather Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson Blog: textontechs.com On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > > > Am 08.08.2018 um 19:14 schrieb Michael Reichert: > > .. > > I read the draft and I think that is far too long. It does not invited > > to be read by the users. This can lead to following issues: > Just to be clear, we (the LWG) would prefer that it be shorter too, it > is just the amount of territory that needs to be covered that makes it > long and complicated (I'm fairly sure that it is actually shorter than > the WP ToU that it is derived from). > > > - Users don't read it because it is too boring, too long and too > > difficult to understand (especially for the majority being not native > > English speakers or understanding no English at all). They would be > > surprised by the important parts later. > > - Already active members of the community refuse to accept the terms > > because they don't understand the needs and the content. > > > > If we need all that rules written down there, we should add a summary of > > the points which are most important from our point of view at the > > beginning. It could look like this: > > > > - You have access to personal data (OSM metadata). Please handle it > > appropriate. > > - Your contributions must not violate copyright. > > - You must be 16 years or older to join OSM. > > - We don't guarantee anything. [insert better wording here] > > We'll be discussing both the concept of a human readable summary and > translations at a our meeting today (both ideas were floated at SOTM). > I wouldn't put too much hope in it though, in the end we need users to > agree to the terms themselves and not to a summary, adding one just > means there is even more text that needs to be read (have a look at > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en for the WP ToU). > Translations are mainly an issue of cost (both initial and maintenance). > > > The OSMF has already a block policy ruling when users get blocked > > permanently and how. If we add terms to the website, we should integrate > > the block policy into the terms. This has the advantage that user > > actively agree the block policy which makes it a lot easier to use it in > > court (I am not talking about a fictional case here). > > > > Best regards > > > > Michael > You were just complaining about the ToU being too long, adding the > kitchen sink is definitely not going to make them shorter :-). > > Simon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > osmf-talk mailing list > osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk > >
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