What do the users in Tanzania require? Do they have access to an android smartphone?
If so what is wrong with using OSMand, its free. Every building in Tanzania has a visible OLC code and its permanent so no danger it will disappear after the trial. Cheerio John On 11 August 2018 at 09:31, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 5:49 AM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 11.08.2018 11:21, mmd wrote: > >> With all due respect, I think we've long crossed that point: > > > > All these have been added by accident, as a side effect of undiscussed > > imports. > > > > This is bad, but not as bad as adding them on purpose in the course of > > an ill-conceived aid project with the promise of lifting poor people out > > of their not-having-an-address misery. > > > > Adding coordinates, or plus codes, as tags to OSM makes no sense. > > Building an aid project around it and doing it on purpose is at best > > negligent and at worst cynical. It is a waste of the money of whoever > > funds the aid project, a waste of resources in OSM, and a waste of time > > for those who do it. For OSM to allow this to happen would make us > > complicit in that cynicism. > > > > Bye > > Frederik > > Ok, lets us get back to reality please. > > All this huffing and puffing, dumbest idea ever in history, etc etc is > typical and typically not helping. > > The situation is: > > A ngo on the ground in Tanzania does first responded type work, they > see how helpful addresses are in other contexts, but the area they > work does not have any. > > This OLC thing seems like it would be interesting to explore, it might > solve some of their use cases. > > All of their tools and workflows can use osm tags, especially like the > addr: tags. > > What if we had something like that, an osm tag that had basically an > addr: value, just from OLC instead of however one normally gets an > address. How would that work? Where could we display it? How could we > look them up? etc etc > > So by doing a small test using a regular old osm tag, they can explore > if it is useful, how it might help, etc etc. and every single OSM tool > in existence at this moment knows how to deal with osm addr: tags or > osm tags more generally. What a great starting point to see if this > solves any of their use cases, some of which we probably could not > really describe well anyway. > > Ya, I am going to try some tagging options so they can get a look at > what is possible if the tools they used supported this in code as they > should, of course. > > I was not involved with this at all before, but I am now and I am > going to do what I do, which is do what I can to help people use OSM, > in full accordance with OSM guidelines, which this totally is. > > OSM will not break, everything will be ok, but OSM is a folksonomy and > this is folksonomy 101 here. > > So take some deep breaths. > > Some local OSM'ers are going to experiment very locally and carefully > with how OLCs or an OLC-like thing might fit into their use cases and > we are going to do it by using tags because that is what every OSM > tool in existence right now understands and can use to various > degrees. > > We'll make a wiki page, revert the import, we'll detail it in the wiki > page and re do it on a better defined area, described in the wiki > project page. > > Also: No one is getting paid for anything related to this at this > point. I personally would like to see Google donate to the OSMF and > let the OSMF grant it out to help OSM core and eco system tools > implement OLC native in code as it should be. Let the OSMF decide how > to best help get the functionality everyone says should "just exist" > in the vast ecosphere of OSM tools. I also plan on following up on > that idea regardless of this tag / no tag issue, which is a minor > issue at best. > > Cheers > blake > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >
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