Mar 23, 2019, 1:04 PM by ajt1...@gmail.com: > > > > On 3/23/19 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> >> >> >> Mar 23, 2019, 9:59 AM by >> si...@poole.ch <mailto:si...@poole.ch>>> : >> >>> >>> ... Producing false updates (aka no real content) just obscures >>> that fact and makes it more difficult to determine which areas >>> need to be revisted. >>> >>> >> It seems to me as not a real problem. There are many, many different >> indicators of such places >> and automatic edits are suitable to remove only very small part of >> them. >> >> > > It's a real problem, for a couple of reasons - one is that "this object > might be out of date" warnings in e.g. Vespucci won't trigger > > Is it really a problem? It is only heuristic and there was no place where I ever mapped that I had problem because I run out of obvious indicators that something needs to be fixed, resurveyed or remapped. > and the other is that by definition automated edits don't look to see > if the object being edited was sensible. "Not sensible"might mean "a > shop in the middle of the sea", "a peak at the bottom of a quarry" or > "an unfeasible park added for Pokemon purposes" (perhaps one that covers > an obviously residential area). > All that things can be easily found - again, there are endless queues of blatantly obvious mistaggings. And all mentioned examples would be trivial to automatically detect (I would even add detecting this problems to standard tools if running out of things to fix would be problem in any region). > > With a DWG hat on it falls to me more than most to remove unfeasible > data, and that's much harder to do if someone has been "correcting" it > in the mean time. > > OK, that is something that I understand. Making reverts more complicated is separate topic where I agree that edits like this may make things harder. > > In the specific case of "osmarender:nameDirection" using "natural > wastage" by deleting when next edited sounds a better way to do it. > > I opened https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/17512 <https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/17512> (if it will pass I will open equivalents for iD and Vespucci). For me it works as well, if human mappers will not see this tag ever again it works almost as well for me and fixes the biggest problem.
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