"riding the current ride in open data" - I am confused what is the meaning of that
"scripting support for botmakers" - as a bot operator and a bot author I am confused what is supposed to be missing "support for references and linking interactively to other data sources" - we have that, see wikidata tag for example "talk pages if we want that for every osmid" - changeset comments and notes seem sufficient "SPARQL support" - we have already some wikidata/OSM query engine and overpass turbo And frankly Overpass is much nicer that SPARQL (this may be just me). "Bots are very useful" - maybe, but it is 100% possible to have bots already so I am confused why it is mentioned "possibility we don't have today regarding integration with e.g. wikidata." - given what kind of ideas appear thanks to current wikidata integration (like deprecating name tag) I prefer reducing wikidata integration rather than deepening it (or, the best solution - keep it as is) Aug 9, 2020, 21:01 by pang...@riseup.net: > Could you reply with your arguments in favor of the current one2one tag model > system in the other thread where I listed the benefits as I see them? > > E.g. permanent unique ids, talk pages if we want that for every osmid, SPARQL > support, standardization benefits "riding the current ride in open data", > scripting support for botmakers, and above all support for references and > linking interactively to other data sources. > Bots are very useful e.g. to notify an editor of a possible tagging mistake > or checking urls of references. Martin could also reference an image in > Wikimedia commons directly on the statement it relates to. > > Unique Qids for every osm object that is decoupled from the underlying osmid > gives some possibility we don't have today regarding integration with e.g. > wikidata. > > Cheers > > Mateusz Konieczny via talk <talk@openstreetmap.org> skrev: (9 augusti 2020 > 20:14:03 CEST) > >> It still fails to provide even a single benefit over the current situation. >> >> Aug 9, 2020, 20:11 by pang...@riseup.net: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Originalmeddelande -------- >>> Från: pangoSE >>> Skickat: 9 augusti 2020 15:40:41 CEST >>> Till: talk@openstreetmap.org >>> Ämne: Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM >>> >>> This is another good reason to abandon this suggestion in favor of our own >>> wikibase instance. >>> >>> Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> skrev: (9 augusti 2020 15:12:21 CEST) >>> >On Sun, 2020-08-09 at 09:04 -0400, James wrote: >>> >>>>> Not to mention if someone wants to add a name for a new item/object, >>>>> does the user need to create a wikidata item on top of it? Will the >>>>> editor do it automatically? How does it pick the right one? Does it >>>>> offer a list to the user? This is going to make osm a massive turn >>>>> off to new contributors on the steep learning curve(which is already >>>>> pretty high) to contributing to osm. >>>>> This whole idea is really terrible and could just be offered as a >>>>> post-processed data set: wikidata? use that instead of name tag. >>>>> >>> >This leads me to a fairly fundamental question, what if a mapper does >>> >not want to be associated with wikidata and refuses to sign up? >>> >Phil (trigpoint) >>> >>> -- >>> Skickat från min Android-enhet med k9. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>> >> >>
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