Mateusz Konieczny via talk:
I am using OSM data on my travels and one of more annoying failures is
case where I arrived at some drinking water source, discovered that it
is broken/gone/disused/abandoned. And on editing OSM it turns out that
it was already marked this way but in a very weird way.
I generally agree.
But I do think there is also a grey area which should be discussed and
documented better.
I have added and updated many water_point s.
Sometimes they do not work.
But what if is just temporarily?
If I have reason to suspect that it is because of frost, I add seasonal=yes.
Some places have a policy of turning off the water from e.g., Nov-Feb. Some do not
say so, but do it anyway, some just turn off the water when frost arrives, and some
water_point just do not work when it is really cold.
Sometimes there is a sign on the water_point saying: "Out of service".
You would think that if the owner of a motorhome stopover or the city put up such a
sign, it will be fixed quickly. So I just add a note, to warn users. And you will
skip things with notes, so that is fine.
Sometimes the sign look very old though. But at least if some OSM come months or
years later and see my then old note, they know that it was not just temporarily.
In Spain there was a drought and water became very expensive, so some places just
turned if off. But most likely the water_point will work when there is no drought.
for https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5036984190 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/
node/5036984190>
* removed: amenity = water_point
* removed: man_made = water_well
* removed: operational_status = out_of_order
* added: disused:amenity = water_point
* added: disused:man_made = water_well
I agree that water_point should be removed.
But I am not sure, that it is not a man_made water_well.
The wiki is not clear about that.
I.e. it shows
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Baudenbach_D-5-75-113-5_001.JPG
and
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Studnia.jpg
which would be difficult to get water from.
It could be argued that a well could be a historic building even if you can not get
water from it.
Like a windmill can be tagged windmill:disused=yes but is still a windmill.
When I look for water sources, I would never search for wells. It they do provide
drinking water, they should have more tags to provide that information.
I would assume that just about any water well with drinking water is operated by some
municipality and that there is no public access, even though that is mostly not
tagged as such. Most wells here are the kind that tourists throw coins into.
We should also try to document drinking_water:legal better.
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Niels Elgaard Larsen
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