Hi Stephen even if you remove the sim and format the phone the telstra
destinations stay in place. The only way they can be removed is via a text
message sent by them then you read back the password then they can remove
them. I assumed when I got the replacement phone there would be no
destinations or no defined access points. I even installed talks with out
the sim card in the phone and while in ten minute mode checked this. I then
formatted the phone hoping to delete the telstra settings but they were
still there. Had the access points and destinations not been present on
this replaced handset I was going to create them manually and had noted what
was to go in each field from the last handset. This is why I asked the
techs at nokia service if they could delete the destinations after they had
removed all the access points this is when they told me they can not remove
them.
Bernard Hemmings
email: [email protected]
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: [email protected]
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Giggar" <[email protected]>
To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem.
Bernard
Just a thought! If you get a new handset or you try a format! Leave the
Sim card out in either case. This away when the phone comes up initially
after the format with no sim in it or it is a brand new phone with no sim
in it. Then install Talks with no Sim in it. Then try setting up your WiFi
access point and see if it works with no Sim ever being in the phone. This
away it is hoped that there will be no access point in the phone at all
when starting out.
If this works with Talks with no sim ever being in the phone! Then put the
sim in the phone and power it up. When you get the messages from telstra
Cancel out of them with SoftKey2, do not accept them. Then go into your
inbox on the phone and delete the messages! Do not open them.
Now try again with using your access point with Talks and see what
happens.
Good luck!
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.
Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernard Hemmings" <[email protected]>
To: "talks" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:13 AM
Subject: [Talks] a major problem.
Well lists after nokia replaced the wifi chip in my e72 it still would
not connect to the web via wireless networks there networks as well as
mine. they gave me a replacement handset but unfortunately not a new one
but a phone that was owned before by another telstra user. Guess what it
has the same problem.
You see telstra send 4 destinations containing 3 access points.
interestingly 2 of the destinations have the same name
"internet"
These protected destinations can not be removed not even by a hard reset.
I believe either the two destinations having the same name or the fact
they can not be deleted cause the format process to abort when the data
can't be deleted. After all formats never go round a problem unless a
skip process is built in. with my old e72 if the wlan wizard was open
it would connect to sites addresses but this would not permit built in
apps that access their own servers to work.
With this handset I tried the way they used but still no go the invalid
server name keeps coming up. The status bar indicates it's connected to
the router and the lan works perfectly when I use the telexy software or
the home media feature.
I think Nokia this week when I go back to the service centre will have a
go at blaming talks. The handsets they tried last week would connect to
the web via wifi networks and they will point out that talks was not
installed. The telstra protected destinations were on this handset when
I got it there was no sticker on the screen and it did not have that new
mobile phone smell they all have when you take them from their box. If
you try and alter these protected destinations the error unable to edit
protected settings comes up. you can open the destinations and delete
the access points. The nokia techs told me they can't delete the
destinations either which I find a little difficult to believe, but if
this is the case then it's no wonder the format or hard reset does not
complete. As other e72 owners are using the lates firmware with out
this problem that is obviously not the cause. If you format the handset
with these telstra destinations in place you get a beep after 20 seconds
or so and the next time you power up the phone I think it has another go
at formatting because you don't hear the power up music and 30 seconds
after reboot you hear a beep. My replacement handset did this the first
time I powered it up.
I don't know if other providers lock their destination in this way.
However it looks as if I may have discovered a problem in that handsets
running the same symian version as the e72 and their owners use telstra
if a hard reset is performed the phone will not be able to use the
internet via their wireless networks. Keep in mind nokia techs tried to
use the net on 3 different WLANS with my e72 and they got the same error
as I do at home.
I've tried both factory reset and hard reset which won't make the problem
go away. As I am sick of visiting the nokia service centre I'm hoping
someone on the list who know more about phone than I do can suggest
something. Hopefully I am wrong re the telstra protected destinations.
Currently every web address I enter including
http://www.blindsea.com
returns the error invalid server name. When using the carrier's access
point it works perfectly.
Now a more synical person than myself would say it's Telstra trying to
make users use their data services, I'm not claiming this yet but I do
wonder how many others have run in to the problem but are to busy to
spend days at their local nokia service centre and just use telstra's
data services and keep their usage to a minimum. all I have done is
install talks and set up my access point. No other software has been
installed on this replacement handset.
Bernard Hemmings
email: [email protected]
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: [email protected]
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799
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