Yes that is correct! Talks has been working with Touch screen phones for a long time. Well that being a few years at least.

As far as multy touch jesters, no screen reader on the Symbian side of things will allow you to do them. I would guess this is for the same reason as I already gave. Also each screen reader has implamented there own way of dealing with the touch screen. Talks has went down the road as far as keeping the touch screen usable by a sighted person if they happen to pick up your phone and not having to turn off Talks. I'm not saying I agree with this way of doing things! But for a VERY LIMITED amount of people who may use only 1 phone for the whole family and only 1 person is blind this probably works OK. However for most people, I don't think this is the case as far as them sharing a phone with sighted people.

I would like to see Talks put in code that would allow people to use different types of input as far as using the touch screen like other screen readers.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Keller" <[email protected]>
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talks already does work with some touch screen devices. This has been true for some time, just can't remember what version was the first with this capability. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulo Augusto" <[email protected]>
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Interesting.
Nowadays it seems like there will be no phones except the touch screen ones. Hughe companies such as nokia, apple and samsung might know if touch screens will be the techonolgie that will kill buttoms forever or buttoms will come back one day in the future. If buttoms will be dead in the next technologies I guess nuance will need to develop talks for touch screen sooner or later. If we will all be forced to use touch screens in the future, another possibility for those who are not braillists is to have the letters written or drawn on the touch screen with our fingertips, using visual forms. The ideal would be to have both options: braille writing and visual writing. But if google and microsoft are now offering new tablets with keyboards, maybe cell phones can have buttoms again.
Complex matter.
Of course I'm suggesting it all just for future developments. Like the majority of talks users I still use a buttom technology.
Regards, Paulo

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Giggar" <[email protected]>
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No this will not work as far as keeping things so that they work with older phones. YES the newer phones can handle multy touch but the older phones like the N97 and the like can not. So I don't see any screen reader doing this for the reason I gave. It would then make the software so that it may ahve issues with older phones. I'm sorry to say! I think there are many more people using older phones then newer ones at this point in time.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
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Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulo Augusto" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:07 PM
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Hi listers,
I've had an idea that maybe can help our problems with touch screen equipments.
Maybe it's not a new idea but if it is, lets think about.
The touch screen could be divided, for example, in 8 rectangles, 4 in the left and other 4 in the right. If we touch the square 1 the application understands letter A. If we touch square 1 and 2 simultaneously, it means we have pressed letter B.
Now the question for talks developers is:
Can a touch screen receive several touches simultaneously?
For instance, if I want to write the letter l I need to touch the squares 1, 2 and 3. If touch screens can get multiple touches at the same time, it may become a nice access for us. If so, the screen can be divided in different ways like 5 cells on the left side and 5 cells on the right. The 6 upper cells can be used to braille pattern writting and the other four cells can be used for other signals such as space bar, backspace, enter and so on. But if touch screen systems still don't accept multiple touches, maybe the next generations of touch screens will work out this way.
Regards, Paulo
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