Bruno, You are so complicated!:) I never said tango was easy. I said it was simple. It's about the man-woman thing. Every step and every technical detail is about that.
Nina At 02:31 PM 7/31/2007, Bruno Afonso wrote: >On 7/31/07, Nina Pesochinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tango is very, very simple. I guess we have to get through all the > > complexities and engineering challenges first before we can see this > > simplicity. > >Nina, > >I will refrain from commenting the "interesting" part before. But the >last quote is interesting. You are basically saying you have to >practice/dance a lot and make a huge effort to understand tango's >simplicity. This simply means that it is in fact not simple. If it >was, everyone could easily do it, and that doesn't happen as anyone >that has tried it knows. Yes, it takes practice as anything in life. > >You are roughly saying that quantum physics is really easy after you >have done a PhD on it. Doesn't make much sense does it? :-) > >Tango is not easy at any level. But this is exactly what drives >passionate persons to it, to be able to learn a bit every time you >dance and immensely enjoy it as you master it more and more. > >Sun Tzu's Art of War was important to teach guidelines and provide >insight into warfare. And I doubt anyone with a brain will claim >warfare to be a simple subject. The few that thought so didn't live to >tell anyone about it. We don't have a Sun Tzu's book of Tango, but we >have teachers to help us guide us in our path through tango. These >teachers can help us from a purely aestetically point of view or from >a more rational one, like the science of having a fit body and mind to >dance. > >This idea of anyone being enlightened by tango gods is naive to me, >but I accept that it may be true to some. Yet, their floorcraft has >eluded my observation to believe in them. There is no brilliant >athlete that didn't work hard independently of how gifted it was to >start with. And there will never be a great tango dancer that didn't >work hard: mentally and physically. > >my 2 cents. >b > > > > > > Best regards to all, > > > > Nina > > > > Quoting Igor Polk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Jeff: "War is work, not mystery" -- old Spartan saying > > > > > > Yes. > > > I am not against practicing at all, but.. > > > > > > Tango is mystery, not work. > > > > > > Igor Polk > > > > > > PS. Practicing what makes a mistery mistery might be much more productive > > > for tango not to speak much more pleasant. Unless you are a sportsman. > > > > > > The problem is and it is much more difficult. Effective > practice is possible > > > only for advanced dancers - they know what to practice and how. But > > > beginners need it most. So someone should make a set of > excersizes to help > > > them, but not suppress creativity, inventiveness, sensitivity, reaction, > > > keeping the eyes open, freshness of the mind, and so on. > Practicing the same > > > move especially with a partner may block all these things especially for > > > talented beginners and intermediates. Or may not. It all > depends how it is > > > put. > > > > > > I do not see this issue was addressed before. I do not have an > answer, but I > > > know about the problem, so I'd like you to see it too. > > > > > > Practicing often, if not always in the current state of > affairs, especially > > > group practice, is about subdiction people to a certain style more than > > > about anything else. > > > > > > So effective tango practice may be conducted only by a teacher who knows > > > variety of tango styles, who is a great dancer himself, who is very > > > sensitive, creative. Other wise I'd advise students to come to > many teachers > > > with the variety of tango practices. > > > > > > Igor Polk > > > PS > > > One more comparison between war and art of dance. In war one > seeks the final > > > result. When enemy is destroyed, then it comes time for > pleasure. In the art > > > - it is evey millisecond of acting that we seek pleasure in. > > > > > > Regarding marial arts, the notion is spreading that martial > arts teachers do > > > not actually teach students the art of war. They are carried away with > > > something else. > > > > > > What else could it be? A pleasure in the duel, in every > millisecond of it - > > > enjoying spirit and movement. "Look what a great kick I did!". > What they are > > > doing is nothing but DANCING. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Tango-L mailing list > > > Tango-L@mit.edu > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tango-L mailing list > > Tango-L@mit.edu > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > > > > >-- >Bruno Afonso >http://brunoafonso.com (personal, mostly portuguese) >http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:BrunoAfonso (Professional, english) >_______________________________________________ >Tango-L mailing list >Tango-L@mit.edu >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l _______________________________________________ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l