Jakarta has the turbine project which has the torque project that overlaps somewhat with ObjectRelationalBridge.
Also velocity overlaps somewhat with Struts and even competes a little with it. I think that the whole apache foundation has a lot of unavoidable redundancy when you are creating cutting edge technology. I think that getting Tapestry in Jakarta would benefit it. regards Jorge DeFlon NetApplications ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Suhm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Tapestry Developer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [Tapestry-developer] Jakarta Tapestry? ObjectBridge is a project that moved to Jakarta about 6 months ago that reminds me a lot of Tapestry (not what it does, but the feel of the project). It also had a main evangelist/coder/visionary (Thomas Mahler) that did most of the project. http://jakarta.apache.org/ojb/index.html I was surprised to see it move there, but it seems (at least as an outsider) that the integration has gone well and gave OJB more legitimacy. I think he may have been directly invited though (they didn't have anything comparable in the relational/object mapping space). Tapestry is in a category with a a lot more perceived competitors. But it has major "cool" factor and is miles ahead of Struts in polish. Is it the same "them" two years later? On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:14:09 -0400, you wrote: >I've been playing with the idea of going back to Jakarta to see about moving Tapestry there. > >http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html > >Three committers minimum: Myself, Richard Lewis-Shell, Malcom Edgar. Mind Bridge and Neil Clayton have been active recently. > >They'd like the use of Jakarta ORO, they won't like OGNL (competes with JXPath). > >Tapesytry isn't orphaned, has years of open-source experience, developers are not homogeneous, not reliance on salieried edevelopers, limited ties to Jakarta. > >Tapestry was shot down over two years ago as being "a variation of Turbine" (it isn't), so I don't know that this would go any better. I'm conflicted too, my ego isn't happy about going back to them. Thought I'd gather some thoughts. > >Another thought is JBoss/Tapestry ... but their organization is quite a bit less organized than Jakarta. > >---- >Howard Lewis Ship >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://tapestry.sf.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Garrett Suhm gsuhm@ pobox.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Tapestry-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tapestry-developer ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Tapestry-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tapestry-developer
