>>> I think many people are looking for a top-to-bottom WO like solution.
>>> So far the combination of technologies I've been playing with has 
>>> been a
>>> close match (eclipse/ant/tapestry/cayenne).
>
> MH> I see. That's what several other people are experimenting with.
>
> MH> I'm still not quiet sure about which way to go: simply rewrite the 
> all
> MH> damn thing (EOF/WOF) or try to get along with cayenne/tapestry.
>
> Not very on subject, but has somebody tried Hibernate or Jakarta OJB
> for persistence?

I had a look at OJB while it wasn't under the hood of Jakarta. Back 
then it was a promising O/R mapping framework with a reasonable feature 
set. In the year I was following the mailinglist feature creep set in 
and the design shifted towards being a 
distributed-cross-vm-object-server-persistent-engine. On this way the 
framework went quite immature which made me stop looking at it.

Note that this is just my personal opinion from following the 
mailinglist and doing a little example with OJB. Never really sat down 
and did a project with it ...

-dirk



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