Thanks! Looks like nice way to satisfy my desires :) --- Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My approach has always been to start from a position > of strength, > which generally means lots of details, such as > exactly what to inject. > It much easier to loosen things up gradually (by > introducing smart > defaults) if you start from a state where things are > very explicitly > defined. > > In fact, you could code and prototype this yourself; > the logic you > want should be part of the EnhancementWorkers > configuration point: > > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/tapestry-annotations/hivedocs/config/tapestry.enhance.EnhancementWorkers.html > > You would need to provide a worker that fits in just > before > abstract-property. It could scan the unclaimed > properties > > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/tapestry/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/enhance/EnhancementOperation.html#findUnclaimedAbstractProperties() > > and determine which of them could be injected > > http://jakarta.apache.org/hivemind/hivemind/apidocs/org/apache/hivemind/internal/Module.html#getService(java.lang.Class) > > (which, unfortunately, throws an exception if not > found ... need to > add a checkForService() method). > > It's then pretty simple to inject the service > implementation into the > class and implement the read-only accessor method. > > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/tapestry/apidocs/src-html/org/apache/tapestry/enhance/InjectObjectWorker.html#line.33 > > > On 10/12/05, Konstantin Ignatyev > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I buy into the consistency argument but still do > not > > want to see annotations in the trivial cases. > > > > I am talking about consistency of different kind: > tool > > does everything for me till it needs guidance. It > is > > about Sensible defaults philosophy and following > > conventions philosophy. > > For example the now famous 'Ruby-on-Rails' is > > entirely built of conventions and enjoys enormous > > success (although at my taste RoR relies on > > conventions too much). > > > > > > --- Ivano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm totally with Pat and Scott on this. > > > For a tool to behave consistently is a critical > > > point, and to do this > > > you should avoid different behaviour without any > > > apparent reason. > > > In the long run the simple routine of performing > > > those little but > > > familiar steps will become automatical for you > > > (believe me, it's true), > > > while > > > preserving consistency and clarity for the > newbies. > > > > > > -1 for automagical annotations =) > > > > > > Ivano > > > > > > Patrick Casey wrote: > > > > > > > I'm with Scott on this one. I think that > less > > > auto-magic, not more, > > > >makes the framework infinitely simpler for new > > > users to understand. One of > > > >my long-term usability complaints about > tapestry > > > 3.0.3 has been the > > > >inconstient use of the "ognl" prefix in an > effort > > > to save keystrokes because > > > >tapestry should just "know" that I mean the > > > litteral "foo" instead of the > > > >derived value getFoo(). > > > > > > > > I'd hate to see the same confusion make > its way > > > into Tapestry 4.0 as > > > >well. To my way of thinking the additional > > > keystrokes required to annotate > > > >everything the same way is more than offset by > the > > > shorter learning curve of > > > >a system that has one, and only one, consistent > way > > > of injecting things into > > > >pages. > > > > > > > > --- Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > Konstantin Ignatyev > > > > > > > > > > PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, > humans will add fifteen million tons of carbon to > the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical > rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, > eliminate between forty to one hundred species, > erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 > tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their > population by 263,000 > > > > Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the > Environmental Movement Needs a Strategy for > Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New > York: State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) > (5) (p.206) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Howard M. 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