If you bothered checking out the sample chapters (and I just had a quick
re-visit of them) you will see that the first chapter covers the setup
of a useable environment to allow a new user to work with Tapestry. In
this case he is using eclipse and tomcat as common examples.
The rest of the chapters don't seem to mention Eclipse at all, no
screen shots, nothing. The rest of the chapters are IDE agnostic.
Lots of snips of code, lots of shots of web page results and nothing in
the text that mentions eclipse.
I think the first chapter is a great way to get new users started,
personally I use a different way to doing things which I feel is better
but for a new user having a decent development environment is one of the
biggest hurdles in getting started with Tapestry, - or it was for me
when I started a couple of years ago with Tapestry.
Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:
<!-- @page { size: 8.5in 11in; margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --> It is bad to promote any IDE oriented techniques.
No, I am not against IDEs, I love and use them, but technologies and
development techniques should be IDE agnostic and easy to use without them.
And it is double bad to promote Eclipse IMO.
----- Original Message ----
From: Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users <[email protected]>; Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>
Sent: Fri Dec 16 17:25:02 2005
Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
What's wrong with something being eclipse oriented? I understand
there are folks out there who don't use it, but it it's got to be by far the
planet's most common java IDE. A tutorial sufficiently detailed for a
beginner is going to have to give instructions about some IDE stuff too, so
Eclipse seems like the obvious choice.
--- Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:10 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
Can someone comment on that: Is it Eclipce oriented?
Too bad if so.
----- Original Message ----
From: John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri Dec 16 09:17:03 2005
Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
Our developers also recommend Kents book. What they really liked is it
starts with setting up Eclipse from scratch, so you start the exercises
with
things looking exactly the same.
Don't worry about the learning curve, I don't think it is much longer than
Struts to do the basic stuff. You'll get a form up and running in no time.
You hit the curve when you want to do something not so basic, then you can
use the support list. :)
John
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