sure thing, but css and html work tight together - the html *must* be very carefully written to allow the css do his work:

html (structure) + css ( style ) = design

and demanding clean html from java programmers is IMO not realistic.

so, saying that jsf-jsp "templates" made by java programmers is the last word because all design is made in css, thats a joke. (but a great answer though - just say css and everybody will listen up, great strategy...). he surley doesn't believe it, but had to say something to get out of the corner... ( or, maybe he does believe it because he never used tapestry... in the past people would also travel by ship, but would never acknowledge how slow it is until they got the chance to cross the atlantic in a few hours...)

Cheers,
Ron


albartell wrote:
That's what I thought too until I saw it on this site an realized how much
good css and html could clean up my pages.

http://www.csszengarden.com/
We've gotten so used to using tables everywhere that css is seldom thought
of as a positioning technology but rather a way to have your fonts and
colors all in one place.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com/blog

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:07 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Gavin King's comment about presentation code and CSS in
Javaposse podcast

In theory, establish a clean content / presentation split between HTML and
CSS is a pleasing idea.

In practice, it's a bunch of starry-eyed crack-smoking idealism.

My $0.02.

P


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