One word: AWESOME!!!!

On 3/24/06, Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>                       Hibernate is really trying to embrace annotations
> but at this time Annotations are not working quite correct, they feel buggy.
> I often see messages in the Hibernate forum from people encountering
> annotation misbehavior in places where hbm mapping works just fine.
>   The bottom line: at this time hbm mapping is more stable and robust.
>
>
> Raul Raja Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This looks very
> interesting. The Trails project uses similar
> technologies but no plugin and is more Model oriented.
>
> My doubts are:
>
> Why using hbm.xml files instead of annotations It looks like the
> hibernate community is moving toward annotations?
>
> Is the generation of persistent objects based only in the db schema or
> can the schema be generated based on the Entity/POJOS?
>
> It looks like Tapestry is gonna move toward getting ride of the xml spec
> files. Does cognition compare on any way with Spindle when it comes to
> validate Tapestry pages and components?
>
> I have asked this same question in the Trails newsgroup, but it seems to
> me that if Cognition uses hivemind, things like the Persistence
> Framework or any of its part could be replace just extending
> configuration points. So that people won't be forced to use Hibernate,
> etc...
>
> Can Cognition work with specless pages and components?
>
>
> Thanks. It looks like a very promising project
>
> Raul Raja.
>
> Derick Fernando wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I copied this from the nightly builds, I'll try to get this resolved
> > shortly. Thanks for the feedback.
> >
> > Robert Hannebauer wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> the presentation looks really great. I wanted to try the modeler, but
> it
> >> seems there are some missing classes/packages.
> >> e.x. com.thelabllc.cfmodel.wizards.NewProjectCreationWizard.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> >>
> >>> This sounds great! Good work guys :) I prefer using jdk 5 and
> hibernate
> >>> exclusively and might actually be able to use something like this.
> >>>
> >>> On 3/23/06, Derick Fernando  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Steven Bell wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This looks interesting at first glance (a little soon to give a real
> >>>>
> >>>> opinion
> >>>>
> >>>>> about it).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A couple of questions that pop to mind right off the bat:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do I have to be using JDK 5.0?
> >>>>> Do I have to be using Hibernate?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, currently you have to use both JDK 5.0 and Hibernate. Hibernate
> >>>> filters are used extensively for searches. Currently the grid
> component
> >>>> can be mapped to any named query, the search component applies
> filters
> >>>> to this query to limit results.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm sure I'll come up with more questions if I get the time to
> really
> >>>>
> >>>> dive
> >>>>
> >>>>> into this, but these are a couple of showstoppers for me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/23/06, Steve Motola  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We are proud to announce the Alpha release of the Cognition
> >>>>>> Framework,
> >>>>
> >>>> an
> >>>>
> >>>>>> open
> >>>>>> source web application framework that uses the Tapestry / Hibernate
> /
> >>>>>> Spring
> >>>>>> application stack.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Accompanying it is an Eclipse Plug-in called the Cognition Modeler,
> a
> >>>>
> >>>> GUI
> >>>>
> >>>>>> tool
> >>>>>> for working with Tapestry and the Cognition Framework.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://dev.thelabllc.com/cognition/viewlets/cognition_intro.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We've been listening closely to the mailing list and have come
> across
> >>>>
> >>>> many
> >>>>
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> the same problems in our own development.  Here are some of the
> >>>>>> goals we
> >>>>>> achieve with the Cognition Framework:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1.  Lower the bar of entry for Tapestry.
> >>>>>> 2.  The ability to start quickly with Hibernate and Spring, and
> >>>>>> not be
> >>>>>> bogged
> >>>>>> down with configuration.
> >>>>>> 3.  Have some common practices and standards in terms of
> application
> >>>>>> design and
> >>>>>> approach.
> >>>>>> 4.  Provide GUI tools for Tapestry 4.  We look forward to
> >>>>>> contributing
> >>>>
> >>>> to
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Spindle and integrating this within the Beta.
> >>>>>> 5.  Provide a framework that is fully extensible.
> >>>>>> 6.  Rapid Application Development for Tapestry and the rest of the
> OS
> >>>>>> application stack.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So give it a download, try it out, give feedback and get
> >>>>>> involved.  We
> >>>>>> apologize
> >>>>>> in advance about the lack of documentation, we are working
> >>>>>> aggressively
> >>>>
> >>>> on
> >>>>
> >>>>>> this,
> >>>>>> as we've been focusing on getting out the Alpha.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com/Products.page
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Right now we are at EclipseCon.  Lots of big vendors have fancy,
> >>>>>> complicated,
> >>>>>> expensive tools for JSF.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Tapestry community needs more tools - ones that are simple,
> >>>>>> affordable, easy
> >>>>>> to use and allow us to solve problems quickly.  We think Cognition
> >>>>>> Framework is
> >>>>>> on the right path and look forward to having it grow and serve the
> >>>>>> needs
> >>>>>> of the
> >>>>>> Tapestry community and beyond.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Derick Fernando, Lead Architect
> >>>>>> Steve Motola, President
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Lab, LLC
> >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steven Bell
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> .........................................
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> >>>> Derick Fernando
> >>>> Lead Architect
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> >>> --
> >>> Jesse Kuhnert
> >>> Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer
> >>>
> >>> Open source based consulting work centered around
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> >>>
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