Tap caching is a development time only device and has know problems
like OOMEs. You should not deploy an application to a production
server with caching disabled.

Geoff

On 3/30/06, Adam Zimowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mornin' again.
>
> So I'm finally done with coding initial version of my app. I've
> survived countless OOEM's after hot-redeploys of my app during
> developement (I had caching disabled of course), but I knew about
> those OutOfMemoryExceptions from numerous thread posts here and
> elsewhere on the net. Now that I'm "readiness" testing my app with
> caching enabled, the app is rocking like a speed daemon, and OOEM's
> are gone. That's nice, the issue will come up when I start coding 0.2.
> One guy summarized this problem pretty well:
>
> Quoting "musson.michael at gmail.com" :
> > When I looked at this in Jan 31 (see archives) the error I ran into
> > was an OOME. When I looked at the actual stack-trace I could see that
> > it was the permanent heap that was out of memory. This is significant
> > since the permanent heap is used for storing classes and types. I have
> > never seen a profiler that analyses the permanent heap in detail - it
> > would be interesting to know if someone knows if such a tool exists.
> > The permanent heap is most probably never garbage collected, this
> > would amount to throwing away class definitions. This is usually not a
> > problem since an ordinary application has a finite number of classes
> > defined and when they are loaded that is it.
> > Now, when in development mode I assume, and this is just a guess, that
> > Tapestry is enhancing and creating _new_ classes every time a page is
> > loaded. This will fill the permanent heap after a while and when that
> > is full you'll get OOME.
> > When Tapestry can cache the classes it creates the permanent heap will
> > not fill up with new classes and everything should work as expected.
> > So this will only be a problem when in development mode, I wouldn't
> > even consider it a bug in Tapestry (this can happen with JSP compilers
> > also), merely a fact of life as a developer Smile
>
> Now, for my initial version 0.1 I was able to put up with it without
> much annoyance because the app is still fairly small. I can see this
> being a major problem as my app grows, because developement will
> become a lot harder due to this problem.
>
> So my question to you guys is, how do you deal with this? Is it a
> Tapestry "feature" or my Servlet container bug? I'm using Tomcat 5.0
> and I'm planning on upgrading to Tomcat 5.5 after releasing my app as
> I know Tomcat has some issues of its own.
>
> Regards,
> Adam
>
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