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Gorry

> Hi Gorry,
>
> Thank you very much for your feedback.
> We will add what you point out that we have missed in Section 3.
>
> Some more comments in-line.
>
> On 26 Jun 2015, at 11:21, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for submitting this. I like the idea of trying to get a handle on
>> the minimal transport services that TAPS can support.
>>
>> Detailed comments on:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-00
>>
>> In Section 1:
>>
>> I think the word "non-functional" is a little awkward, since it suggests
>> "dysfunctional" and we probably should seek a different word for
>> clarity.
>
> You are the english speaking person her, so you are probably right.
> However “non-functional” has a technical meaning in software design, and
> that is what I
> meant here. See e.g..
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_requirement
>
Yes I see this use, but still wonder if this is the best word.

>>
>> In Section 3:
>>
>> My initial comments are on the list of features (this may have to be fed
>> back to the 1st TAPS ID, but it is more clear here at the moment, so
>> I'll
>> comment here and see what people think:
>>
>>   o  unicast: TCP SCTP UDP-Lite DCCP NORM
>> - Add UDP-Lite
>>
>>   o  IPv6 multicast and anycast: UDP
>> - Add UDP-Lite
>>
>>   o  multicast: NORM
>> - ??? Is this reliable, the multicast part includes UDP, UDP-Lite (as
>> non-reliable)
>
> I am not sure what you mean here.  Does not NORM implement multicast?
> There is no statement about it being reliable or not (but may be it
> should?)
>
What I intended to say was:

The set of transports supporting multicast IPv4 or IPv6 is {UDP, UDP-Lite,
NORM}

And hence NORM supports this over UDP, and adds reliability (in various
forms).

>>
>>   o  unidirectional: UDP
>> - Add UDP-Lite
>>
>>   o  bidirectional: TCP
>> - Add DCCP, SCTP
>>
>>   o  IPv6 jumbograms: UDP
>> - Add UDP-Lite
>>
>>   o  2-tuple endpoints: UDP
>> - Add UDP-Lite
>>
>>   o  error detection (checksum): TCP UDP
>> - Add UDP-Lite, DCCP
>>
>>   o  error detection (UDP checksum): NORM
>> -??? I see this is via UDP, but is it a real difference, NORM is only
>> specified over UDP
>
> Yes, so if we want to include NORM (or may be we should not in the initial
> minimal version?)
> then we must include that it supports error detection as in UDP (?).
>
Yes - NORM is over UDP, and hence I think its error *detection* model is
the same as UDP.
>>
>>   o  strong error detection (CRC32C): SCTP
>> - Possible with TCP option, or AUTH or TLS (and possible with
>> UDP/UDP-Lite/DCCP using DTLS
>>
>>   o  congestion control: TCP SCTP NORM
>> - Add DCCP
>>
>>   o  no congestion control: UDP
>> - Add UDP-Lite
>>
>> On section 4
>>
>> I can offer more comments later, but initially I just note that I think
>> the Service Code in DCCP *IS* specified by the Application in the same
>> way
>> that the port is chosen.
>
> OK, so we have to include this.
>
> Cheers,
> Stein
>
>>
>> Gorry
>>
>>
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