Hi Brian,

This PR has been waiting for your reaction for a while:
https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/pull/1125 
<https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/pull/1125>

One out of two remaining PRs … after these, we should probably issue a new 
version.

Cheers,
Michael


> On Mar 10, 2023, at 5:55 PM, Brian Trammell (IETF) <i...@trammell.ch> wrote:
> 
> Adding a sentence making it clear it’s safe to skip the glossary if you’re 
> going to read the rest of the document would address my approachability 
> concern completely. :)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2023, at 17:34, Gorry Fairhurst <go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> On 10/03/2023 14:57, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
>>> hi Reese, all,
>>> 
>>> Apologies I haven’t been around on the answering-of-comments; it’s been a 
>>> rough month. Thanks, all, for getting these revs of the documents out. I’ve 
>>> reviewed the changes.
>>> 
>>> - Arch changes are good, modulo the following non-blocking comment:
>>> 
>>> I’m not convinced of the value of the glossary of terms, as it forwardrefs 
>>> basically the entire document, and some of the definitions are so generic 
>>> as to be potentially confusing (e.g. Event), so I think putting these up 
>>> front reduces the document’s approachability and readability.  I understand 
>>> that some people like these (and other standards orgs make them mandatory, 
>>> hi ETSI), so I won’t fight it.
>> 
>> Mea cupla on this, and I did recall your thoughts when we discussed at one 
>> of the TAPS interims. At first I didn't feel persauded, but as I tried to 
>> reset my head to someone who had never read these IDs before, I began to 
>> think this could be really valuable to give some initial context to the many 
>> terms we use across the documents. The text is identical or "thinned" 
>> versions of later text.
>> 
>> If this glossary is thought useful - which I now personally think it is, but 
>> others are free to comment  - I'd be really quite OK with this "glossary" 
>> starting with a sentence that says each of these terms is defined later in 
>> the document, in other words - hinting strongly don't bother with this if 
>> you know what you are reading....
>> 
>>> 
>>> - Interface changes are good.
>>> 
>>> - Implementation changes are good.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>>>> On 10 Mar 2023, at 01:26, Reese Enghardt <i...@tenghardt.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear TAPS,
>>>> 
>>>> As you may have seen, our three documents were updated to address Zahed's 
>>>> AD review comments (Thank you to everyone involved!).
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that there were normative language changes in the Interface 
>>>> document.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any questions about or any objections to these changes, please 
>>>> respond to the list within the next two weeks, i.e., by Thursday March 
>>>> 23rd, 5pm PT. (This is Thursday before IETF 116.)
>>>> 
>>>> If we don't hear anything by this date, we will assume that there is WG 
>>>> consensus on these changes.
>>>> 
>>>> For your convenience, here are the diffs for all three documents:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-taps-arch-16
>>>> 
>>>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-taps-interface-19
>>>> 
>>>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-taps-impl-15
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Reese
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/9/23 10:01, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:
>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>>>>> directories.
>>>>> This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Transport Services WG of the 
>>>>> IETF.
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Title           : An Abstract Application Layer Interface to 
>>>>> Transport Services
>>>>>        Authors         : Brian Trammell
>>>>>                          Michael Welzl
>>>>>                          Theresa Enghardt
>>>>>                          Godred Fairhurst
>>>>>                          Mirja Kuehlewind
>>>>>                          Colin Perkins
>>>>>                          Philipp S. Tiesel
>>>>>                          Tommy Pauly
>>>>>  Filename        : draft-ietf-taps-interface-19.txt
>>>>>  Pages           : 91
>>>>>  Date            : 2023-03-09
>>>>> 
>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>   This document describes an abstract application programming
>>>>>   interface, API, to the transport layer that enables the selection of
>>>>>   transport protocols and network paths dynamically at runtime.  This
>>>>>   API enables faster deployment of new protocols and protocol features
>>>>>   without requiring changes to the applications.  The specified API
>>>>>   follows the Transport Services architecture by providing
>>>>>   asynchronous, atomic transmission of messages.  It is intended to
>>>>>   replace the BSD sockets API as the common interface to the transport
>>>>>   layer, in an environment where endpoints could select from multiple
>>>>>   interfaces and potential transport protocols.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-taps-interface/
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is also an HTML version available at:
>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-taps-interface-19.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-taps-interface-19
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at 
>>>>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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