Hi Stian,

Thank you for the email!

+1

Aleks

On 21/05/2014 16:17, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I and Shoaib Sufi here in Manchester have been talking to Andy
> Seaborne with Apache about the possibility of moving Taverna ownership
> to the Apache Foundation - making Taverna an Apache Incubator project
> https://incubator.apache.org/
>
>
> The last years Taverna has been managed and primarily developed by the
> myGrid group at the University of Manchester, but with several
> contributors from around the world, not the least considering the
> growing list of plugins and integrations.
>
>
>
> Taverna contributors have already signed License Agreements that grant
> University of Manchester a copyright license, for instance allowing a
> change of source code license.
> http://www.taverna.org.uk/about/legal-stuff/contributors-guide/
>
>
> Moving to Apache would mean changing the ownership of the code base to
> the Apache Foundation - which would then become the legal entity that
> release the software as opposed to University of Manchester.
> University of Manchester would still want to very much play an active
> role in the Taverna development - but we also prefer a more
> decentralized way we all work with Taverna.
>
>
> Some reasoning for considering the Apache Incubator:
>
>    * Encouraging more open development -- all discussions and
> decissions on the mailing list
>    * Encouraging shared ownership of codebase - anyone can fix anything
>    * Long-term sustainability - anyone can easily join development
>    * Apache is recognizable "Brand name"
>    ** More justifiable for other entities to add "Extend Apache
> Taverna" to a grant proposal without needing to include Manchester
>    ** Apache's CLA, while very similar to Taverna's CLA, is more
> recognizable by legal entities (many organizations have already
> signed)
>
>
> Now one can argue that most of these can be achieved without changing
> ownership, and that there are also other, more light-weight
> foundations that could take over the ownership. That is a valid
> argument that I think we should consider when deciding.
>
>
> Some of the challenges with moving to Apache is that we would need to :
>
>   * Move source code repositories to Apache hardware (but can keep
> mirrors on Github)
>   * Change license from LGPL 2.1 to Apache 2.0  (In theory easy for all
> Taverna 2.x and 3.x code as Manchester has copyright or copyright
> license)
>   * Remove dependencies that are LGPL or GPL (e.g. externalize as
> plugins, which they generally are already)
>   ** Split between Apache Taverna (Core) and more specific
> customization (following style of AstroTaverna)
>   ** Can we still include OpenJDK?
>   * Check copyright on existing code (commit log) matching against
> signed CLAs we have on fily
>   * Show evidence of new contributors joining the Incubator project
>
>
> If you think we should move to Apache, then be aware that the
> incubating process can take a while.
>
> Andy said that for Apache Jena, which he was part of moving through
> Incubator, it took almost 2 years. However, during this process, most
> of the development continues to happen as before. Some changes, like
> moving repositories and mailing lists, are obviously disruptive right
> when they happen, but should not take too long. (Our recent move to
> Github took less than a week).
>
> The myGrid team would obviously take a lead in the incubation process,
> specially on the legal side, but would also hope for contributions
> from the community during the process.
>
>
> I would like to hear your views on the prospect of Taverna becoming an
> Apache Incubator project. If you would like to vote now (I don't think
> this count as formal vote yet), then you may respond as:
>
> +1 (positive)
> 0 (undecided)
> -1 (negative)
>
>
>
>


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Dr Aleksandra Nenadic
myGrid project
School of Computer Science
University of Manchester
E-mail: [email protected]
Skype: a.nenadic
Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~nenadic
Office: +44 (0)161 275 0672
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