Hello List, I do know (as I stated it myself) 1.60g ain't a Beta version, but I'll first drop the note here, especially as I hope somebody at RITLabs is reading this list and recognizes it faster than on TBUDL due to the lower traffic here at the moment.
One statement: RTV in 1.60g sucks. I'm running a Duron 750 with 512 MBytes RAM. Just in this moment TB! stopped displaying messages both in the preview pane as well as when using folder view. Switching to PTV makes the messages be shown, changing back to RTV is NO solution. I assume restarting TB! will help, this will be tested after writing this message. The current memory consumption for The Bat! is round about 50 MByte, it is _on top_ of the list in my task manager when sorting by memory usage. 1296 GDI objects in use, VM size 64 MByte. 188 Handles, 8 Threads and 370 User Objects. Just in case somebody of the developers has a use for this informations. I've just managed it with minimizing The Bat! and restoring it's windows to make the very next message be shown again in RTV, but now it permanently fails. I can change the folders, I do still see which messages are unread, seems every other function is working, including compression of folders and creating a new mail (as you can read). It would be _VERY_ nice if somebody in Moldavia has an hint how to pin down this ugly bug. I tried killing all other applications running in my tray (Babylon, Clip Cache, United Devices, PGP-Tray) but even this only helped a few seconds and, to be precise, two mails, so I'd assume it was a coincidence. So a very clear question of mine is: can we do anything, and if WHAT can we do, to pin down the culprit of this effect? As this happens the first time to me I don't know how often this will be reproduced on my machine, but as everybody must have noticed it is not a problem of 'one person, with only the wrong system setup' ... My suggestion is it is time for a switch 'Yes, I have a problem with RTV not showing my mails. Please create a debug trace file from now on until I shut down The Bat! that exactly logs what actions RTV is taking and what the results / return codes of several used functions are.' that can be activated in general options at runtime, so the resulting log file can be sent in for further inspection, or even only the relevant parts if if is clear text and user can copy the obviously failing calls from it. I do know everybody is looking forward to v2 and 1.60 should be the latest 1.x release and no heavy bugfixing should be done, BUT: who guaranties this bug is not present in v2 too, using the same component? How can people continue using 1.60 if it simply fails showing the messages? This ain't a property of a _stable_ version and have to be pinned down and solved. So please ... can finally somebody at RITLabs take the time to drop a note if and how this will be handled? I do know everybody is busy, but time for a short note with a few statement should be taken ... Most of us, if not all on this list, are taking time to beta test version and we're doing it (mostly) seriously. We're interested in stable versions and therefore help as we can. But without any feedback it is really hard to do so. And last but not least I'm not talking about a bug one can avoid by 'simply not pressing this button', but a show stopper ... So ... how should we handle this? Forget about the RTV? Pit P.S.: As assumed restarting The Bat! 'solved' the problem, but to be honest: this _ain't_ a solution, especially as I've read of people only being able to read _exactly one_ mail with RTV and therefore being forced to restart every _two_ messages. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Every program has (at least) two purposes: The one for which it was written and another for which it wasn't.
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