Monday, December 06, 1999
Hello Douglas,
Monday, Monday, December 06, 1999, you wrote:
(snipped)
Douglas> This goes beyond the folder level filtering used by Pegasus that Alex
Douglas> described. Being able to color code messages (or flags) via a filter
Douglas> (a la Pegasus) and/or manually (as in the flags of many others) is
Douglas> another a useful option I for one would like to see implemented soon
Douglas> in TB, along with the ability to edit received messages (which
Douglas> sometimes arrive with absent or misleading subjects, for instance).
ie you mean you are willing to tag msgs manually if being of
potential interest and after having gone through those in the inbox,
then do a manual filter to move the tagged one elsewhere????
Douglas> As for Pegasus, I know people that do use it heavily but my own
Douglas> experience has not been positive, due to it's erratic behavior on my
Douglas> old IBM Value Point and it's "less than intuitive" (as Alex described
Douglas> it) user interface. For that reason, it's not even installed at the
Douglas> moment.
I was forced to use it as a friend in penang uses that and thats where
my urgent mail was send to.
What a headache to see for instance attachments....
Douglas> While TB drives me up a tree momentarily now and then due to
Douglas> inadvertent keystrokes activating unwanted functions, I am very much
Douglas> at home with it's advanced composition features, good stability and
Douglas> ability to download and send from multiple accounts simultaneously.
Agreed, like trying to delete msgs in my inbox while I use a delete
key while editing a new msgs.. I have to constantly check my bin to
see if anything deleted unintended.
Douglas> In the best of all *possible* worlds, an improved TB is certainly good
Douglas> enough for me, and that goes for the support received from RITLabs and
Douglas> of course TBUDL itself. (I say improved because some of this was
Douglas> discussed with RITLabs prior to registering). Although I've been told
Douglas> of other supposedly good email email clients, I continue to dedicate
Douglas> time to assimilating TB's current features and commands, which
Douglas> increases my appreciation of it and lessens my interest in the
Douglas> temptations posed by supposedly greener grass on another side of the
Douglas> fence.
There is a lot of different green taste, I like a program to be
actively under development as thats the only way you can be reasonably
sure that bugs get fixed quick and new capabilities added as soon as
they see the need/time for it.
Essentially I guess they let us bicker here (g) and pick up those
things they think are of use. Easier then getting hundreds of emails
per day with requests... and they can see the reactions from others on
suggestions.
Douglas> Douglas
Douglas> (Any of the above is available for further diffusion if desired).
Douglas> ----------------------------
AVK>> Hi there!
AVK>> On 5 Dec 99, at 1:03, Ali Martin wrote
AVK>> about "Re: unsubscribe":
AVK>> This one I have to comment, apparently;-)
>>> Alexander V. Kiselev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I really don't think anybody should leave TB for Pegasus (neither
>>> > for anything else, since I personally love Pegasus, too:-))).
>>>
>>> <more perplexed> Again, but why would you say that? Aren't *you* using
>>> Pegasus and prefer it to TB!?
AVK>> I'm really using Pegasus (and suffering from its almost
AVK>> nonexistant 8-bit support), but if I preferred it to TB, I'd
AVK>> probably unsubscribe from this mailing list, don't you think so?
AVK>> I *need* decent support for complicated MIME structures like
AVK>> MIME digests (I have heaps of these in my Pegasus mailbox),
AVK>> and I would *love* to be able to transfer my folder system
AVK>> together with filtering model to TB. These two are the main
AVK>> reasons preventing my own switching from Pegasus to TB.
AVK>> Okay, and here's my own listing of Pegasus major bugs for
AVK>> those who're maybe considering switching to Pegasus (to make
AVK>> them reconsider, probably). This list is the main reason for me
AVK>> not to recommend switching from TB to Pegasus, _especially_
AVK>> for multilingual users:
AVK>> -The option "when the message is deleted, open the previous
AVK>> message in the reader" causes triple GPF _always_;
AVK>> -The text to the right of the reader right boundary cannot be
AVK>> scrolled to (at all);
AVK>> - Vertical scrollbars don't work as expected (everywhere; David
AVK>> Harris says it's a Windows bug which I seriously doubt);
AVK>> - Attaching another mailbox to list, switching to that mailbox's
AVK>> user, then returning back results in your OWN mailbox
AVK>> attached twice, and so on ad infinitum;
AVK>> - The signatures in anything else then ISO-8859-1 cannot be
AVK>> edited at all (they're then displayed in the wrong font); the same
AVK>> applies to heaps of other places;
AVK>> - The Unicode font scripts aren't understood: Pegasus
AVK>> _always_ uses Western; hence to use other fonts you need to
AVK>> manually add the corresponding definitions to Font Substitutes;
AVK>> but even this fails when Pegasus is displaying HTML or
AVK>> RichText messages --- regardless the font you've set up, these
AVK>> will be _always_ displayed in Western, thus making Russian
AVK>> ones unreadable at all;
AVK>> - Identity attached to a folder doesn't work as expected: it
AVK>> doesn't switch the "Custom heading line" to the attached
AVK>> identitys one;
AVK>> - Using Pegasus with HP-made printer drivers installed as
AVK>> "default printer" is a pain; in a while causes system hang;
AVK>> - Printing 8-bit-containing messages with the option "Auto-wrap
AVK>> at right margin" doesn't work at all;
AVK>> - USB printers can't be used at all;
AVK>> - Printer spooler names with blanks aren't permitted;
AVK>> - PGP encryption/signing strips out the signature provided that
AVK>> either the message body or the signature contains 8-bit;
AVK>> - You'll never be able to re-code the erratically encoded
AVK>> messages without leaving Pegasus: it simply hasn't View-->
AVK>> Encoding functionality:-(;
AVK>> - Something more that I don't remember:-)
>>> > Nevertheless, I don't think Ethan gonna love Pegasus: it isn't
>>> > intuitive at all, and a person that apparently can't even click on
>>> > the "unsub" link attached to every message on this list is likely
>>> > to get any kind of problem with the Flying Horse:-)) No personal
>>> > offence, please!
>>>
>>> Who knows what his needs are anyway? Good luck to him. :)
AVK>> He'll end up using OutGlitch, i believe:-)
Best regards,
tracer
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