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Hello Dwight,
On Monday, September 10, 2001 at 4:10:50 PM you wrote (at least in part):
DAC> On Monday, September 10, 2001, 5:40:51 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote:
>> "For mailinglist details please have a look at the FOOTER in every
>> message!"
DAC> It is, I agree, mildly annoying when someone posts an signoff message
DAC> to the list. It would, I submit, be a major annoyance to have
DAC> something like this at the top of every message.
I did not say I'd like it, but for me in the second I wrote the mail it was
the last chance I saw making this folk seeing where to get hints about using a
mailinglist.
DAC> I'd say we have burned more band width discussing the most recent
DAC> unsubscribe message, than would be taken over the next 6 to 12 months
DAC> with similar errors by other users.
OK ... the very first I wanted to write was: "I don't care 'bout bandwidth"
and this would have two reasons: bandwidth is fixed per line, so this mail
can't use more bandwidth then others :-) second: I think what you meant was
traffic :-)
But I don't want to write this anymore as I see your point.
I'd never disagree. BUT: My attempt was finding a way teaching people
_essential_ things. I get this kind of mails on at minimum 9 mailinglists. I
don't know if one can imagine this, but it is not a subject of traffic for me
anymore, it is something general. I don't care 'bout the few k such messages
take and I don't care 'bout the few MByte they take when multiplied by MLs, I
simply slap my hand at my forehead when getting _again and again_ this kind of
mails (plus this nice tiny #?@°! auto-responders on MLs *grrrr*) with no
ending in sight.
I'm able to delete this mails silently, htey do not eat up my diskspace not my
traffic or bandwidth but they are simply silly and show how _lazy_ so much
people are not even reading _simple_ text.
As I like the idea of _a little bit of netiquette_ I presume somebody
describing to a ML is _reading_ subscription confirmation or at least the
minimum of a footer he/she get appended _at every mail_ automatically. It
really ain't to hard or to much.
He/she even can't expect the public transports driving when he/she is standing
at the bus stop, but he/she _has to read_ the timetable too ... this simple it
is for me.
Neither my first mail nor this one is/was an offense to anybody, I don't judge
anybody for his/her behavior as this mails are not what I call spam, but I
don't give up my struggle to show this people where to find appropriate
information. They need to prove they know how to drive a car and they do not
need to prove how to use a mailinglist, so the minimum is to expect they learn
about net-_basics_ on a volunteer basis, and one of the basics is: "The one
whom read: wins!"
Ciao Pit
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Regards
Peter Palmreuther mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2)
Acting without thinking can be awfully entertaining.
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