Hello Allie, Thanks so much for your reply to my post. I'll play around with the labeling feature and see if I can get some of these graphics to speak properly. Being able to see the lines connecting threaded messages must be really interesting -- I've always thought that somehow illustrating the concepts of threads would help people understand how mailing lists function.
I'm sure I'll have many questions as I continue my journey with the bat, but for now, I'll go and try to get things working based on your information. Again, thanks for your help. Steve Wednesday, July 9, 2003, 8:20:50 PM, you wrote: AM> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- AM> Hash: SHA1 AM> Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: SMS>> Greetings, I am a blind computer user who recently re-installed the SMS>> bat. I say re-installed because when I had last tried The bat, I SMS>> found that it didn't work well with my screen reader. A lot has SMS>> changed since then, both with the bat and with the screen reading SMS>> technology and I'm finding that the Bat is a lot more accessible to SMS>> blind users like myself. AM> This is good to know. :) SMS>> Be that as it may, I'm finding that I still have trouble accessing SMS>> parts of the program and am hoping that someone on this list might SMS>> be able to give me a hand. AM> Let's see. I'll give it a shot. SMS>> .... In Outlook, threads, or conversations as they like to call SMS>> them, are shown by a little minus symbol to the left of the message SMS>> listing. When the thread is expanded, the minus changes to a plus. SMS>> Anyway, with my screen reader, I am not detecting any sort of SMS>> symbol when I change to the thread view. AM> The symbols are actually there. AM> When threading by references: AM> - A plus sign is in front of a message starting a collapsed thread or AM> sub-thread. AM> - A minus sign is in front of each message within an expanded thread AM> and they're each connected by a line. AM> When the thread by subject: AM> - A plus sign is in front of messages starting collapsed threads. AM> - A minus sign is in front of messages starting an expanded thread. The AM> other messages in the thread are connected by broken lines. AM> It's a bummer that you can't see this. SMS>> How can I tell how many messages are in a thread? AM> If you open the column view configuration panel, you'll see columns that AM> can be added. Two of them are 'Total Messages' and 'Unread Messages'. AM> These are included by default in the column settings when in threaded AM> by references view. AM> The 'Total Message' column displays the total number of messages within AM> a thread or subthread. AM> The 'Unread Messages' column displays the total number of unread AM> messages within a thread or sub-thread. SMS>> Are threads actually colapsed, or does the bat handle them SMS>> differently than Outlook in that respect? Are there keyboard SMS>> commands which might assist me with thread navigation? AM> Yes. AM> CTRL-* expands all threads. AM> CTRL-Shift-* collapses all threads. This can take a while to occur in AM> threaded mode when there are a lot of messages in the folder. AM> CTRL-Alt-<right arrow> moves you to the next unread message within a AM> thread. When all unread messages within the thread are read, it will AM> move you to the next unread message in subsequent threads. It does so AM> working downwards in the threaded message list and when it reaches the AM> end of the list, it starts from the beginning again. AM> CTRL-Alt-<left arrow> moves to to the previously unread message in a AM> thread. I hardly use this one. AM> Alt-<left arrow> moves you to the previously read message. AM> Alt-<right arrow> moves you to more recently viewed messages, i.e., the AM> opposite of Alt-Right. This allows you to browse recently read messages, AM> even though they may be scattered among threads. SMS>> I am having trouble figuring out if a message has been read, SMS>> replied to, forwarded, remains unread, etc... In outlook, this SMS>> information is represented with a graphical symbol which I can SMS>> "label." AM> TB! does a similar thing. The 'message flags' column displays this AM> graphical symbol, so be sure that this column is enabled in your message AM> list display. When viewing threads by references, it's the second column AM> from the left when using the default column configuration for reference AM> threading view. AM> The graphical symbol changes when the message is read, replied to, AM> forwarded etc. The graphical symbol changes in a way that by looking at AM> it I can tell a message was read, replied to and forwarded. There are AM> separate graphical symbols to show these combinations. SMS>> Lastly, for now, I have a question about column sizing. I went SMS>> into column view and saw that I could adjust the size of columns by SMS>> entering a number i.e. 150 next to subject. What is this number SMS>> actually referencing? AM> It references the width of the selected column in pixels. SMS>> Also, is there a way, not dragging, which I could use to resize SMS>> columns? AM> Yes. When the column configuration panel is open, the list of columns on AM> the right indicates those columns which are actually being used. Select AM> each and then adjust the pixel width that appears. AM> I hope this helps. Be sure to ask if you need further assistance and AM> good luck! AM> - -- AM> -= allie_M =- | List Moderator AM> _ AM> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- AM> Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 AM> iQA/AwUBPwyxY1fJ62ArBxfiEQLh5gCcCL/kRmuM9z/sNdX/MRZQ+1rLqHwAoIk/ AM> Dw+DFQhhWMHJAnP3plpQIlxC AM> =FMzd AM> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- AM> ________________________________________________ AM> Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: AM> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, Steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________ Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
