Saturday, December 13, 2003, 10:12:38 AM, you wrote:

>> I've never gotten any legitimate mail from China, South America or
>> Spain,

TF> Are you sure? When I still lived in Taiwan, a user on this list
TF> filtered all messages with a .tw top level domain and never saw my
TF> postings. This list features members from the China and Spain, even
TF> though I am not sure about South America at the moment.

Well, it's true it's not easy to be certain, but that's
what whois returned on those ips ... it's all a little
arcane, isn't it? I haven't any reason to thing that
overseas listers have been trying to reach me with no
luck - if they were, a post to the list in question would
have found me, and I could have fixed it.

>> but a high percentage of my spam mail actually originated in those
>> places.

TF> I read that most spam actually originates in the US, they just use
TF> open relays in those countries.

Given the kinds of mail, I would think a very high
proportion of it does, but you know, here they claim the
open relays are overseas :-)

And I'm ever amazed when I talk to a new isp and his
reaction on hearing that I'm using TB is that it's a
spammer's mailer ... but a *huge* percentage of the spam
I see, where ever it purports to originate, comes from
Outlook, unless, of course, they're spoofing their mailer
origin ...

>> Aren't you thrilled that we now have anti-spam laws?

TF> It is estimated that 50% of all email traffic is spam by now. The
TF> anit-spam laws don't mean to be a convenience to the recipients,
TF> that's just a side-effect. The enourmous amount of spam is costing the
TF> ISPs a lot of money, they have to upgrade their bandwidth and all.

I don't doubt it, I just doubt that the US government is
going to be able to impose any realistic controls .. even
if it is true that the greatest amount of spam originates
in the US. And they certainly can't hope to control
whatever *does* come from overseas ... DON'T get me
started, really! lol!

Lynn




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