Amy,

Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day!

 His question for me was how he might use his 
> sociological imagination to have better luck "with
the women"!  
> I wonder what I might be doing wrong.  Although,
at least he didn't 
> get a "gloom and doom" message.

Andi





> Amy Hite
> > 
> > From: "Jan Buhrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2006/01/20 Fri PM 04:01:08 EST
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Subject: TEACHSOC: Re: Values in Sociology
> > 
> > 
> >  Martha brings up some good observations about
gender.  Although 
> this is not
> > my only area of interest and specialization
within sociology, the 
> first> thing that struck me after reading the
first several posts 
> on this topic was
> > that the almost 'competitive' tone of the
various responses all were
> > submitted by male sociologists.
> > 
> > ...Interesting how those ingrained 'gender
norms' are at work, 
> even as we're
> > examining and discussing the discipline of
sociology.
> > 
> >  -  Jan Buhrmann
> > 
> > ==========================
> > Jan Buhrmann, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Sociology
> > Illinois College
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Phone: 217-245-3877
> > 
> > "Few people are capable of expressing with
equanimity opinions 
> that differ
> > from the prejudices of their social environment.
Most people are 
> even> incapable of forming such opinions."
> > 
> > -- Albert Einstein
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of GIMENEZ MARTHA E
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:48 PM
> > To: Brett Magill
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: TEACHSOC: Re: Values in Sociology
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Brett Magill wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Though none will be satisfied with any
definition of sociology 
> > > proposed, I will venture to say that it is a
discipline that 
> makes an 
> > > effort to understand things social. 
Structures, culture, 
> > > interactions, beliefs and values, and their
mutual influences.
> > 
> > Yes, but which "things social" and from what
theoretical 
> perspective? I
> > remember when "order" models prevailed, women
were defined as 
> "lactating> organisms" (thus legitimating the
sexual division of 
> labor), gender
> > inequality at home and in the occupational
structure was considered
> > "functional" for marital integration and
solidarity, 
> "underdevelopment"> was explained as an effect of
lack of 
> "achievement motivation,"  the nuclear
> > family was a "functional prerequisite of all
societies," and social
> > inequality was simply "an unconsciously evolved
mechanism" to 
> make sure
> > talented people were motivated to fulfill
functionally important
> > positions...  and I could go on....
> > 
> > Do you think all those views were "scientific"
and "value free"?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > 
> > Martha E. Gimenez
> > Department of Sociology
> > Campus Box 327
> > University of Colorado at Boulder
> > Boulder, Colorado 80309
> > Voice:  303-492-7080
> > Fax:  303-492-8878
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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